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Journey To Making $6000 per day with Bing Ads + CPA + Peerfly

Discussion in 'My Journey Discussions' started by void957, Oct 8, 2016.

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  1. void957

    void957 Regular Member

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    Hey guys,

    So this is my first journey here on BHW. My goal is to be making $6000 a day from my CPA offers using Bing Ads.

    So far I have setup 5 campaigns with about 2-5 ads in each campaign. Since CPA is a testing game, I'll be adding new campaigns promoting different offers everyday since some of them dont work.

    I've had to take down about 2 campagins because Bing dissaproved them so I'll always be adding new ones.

    Also, it's not like I can make the majority of the income from 1 offer. Better to have different offers each bringing in income rather than putting all my eggs in one basket.

    Collectively right now (I've set this up about 3 days ago), I have 5430 impressions, 36 clicks, 0.66% CTR and 0% CR according to Peerfly.

    95% of the clicks came from a scholarship offer I was promoting. However, they dissaproved it after a day of letting me run the campaign. I forgot to adjust my bids on this campaign, so it used up $10 in like 5 minutes.

    I'm using a coupon at the moment to fund these campaigns and will be doing so in the future until I'm making a profit and am more confident in what I'm doing. Thats when I'll use my own money rather than relying on coupons.

    I get my keywords from Google Keywords tool, bing keywords and some other online spying tools. I've started to be more careful with the keywords I include in the campaigns to make sure I'm actually targeting who I'm supposed to target. E.g if you're promoting a credit score program that requires credit card info, probably not a good idea to bid on keywords that say things like 'get credit score without credit card info' since there is a low chance that person would signup.

    WEEK 1 STATS

    Impressions: 5430
    Clicks: 36
    CTR: 0.66%
    CR: 0%


    Thanks for reading. This is going to be an intense journey but I'm going to give it everything I've got..
     
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  2. elavmunretea

    elavmunretea Elite Member

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    Impressive goal. Good look on your journey :)
     
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    Good luck brother, i wish the best for you, me on the other hand is just starting my 30 dollars per day journey :)
     
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    thats quite a aim .... good luck :)
     
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    Probably some people will say that I'm wrong and anothers that no, but In my opinion 6000$/ day in a first aim it's not the best you can make, because even if you get 1000$ daily you will get no motivation because you wan't even close to the aim..

    Anywa on the other hand, if you are an experience guy on Bings ads with 100K of spend on them, well, then I'm wrong and obviously you know what are you doing.

    I want to ask you for your budget, When you work on Media buys on general you need a good budget (own experience) and specially and budget in which you don't care if you lose the 100% of them, to make this 6k daily, (on income with no benefits, 0% ROI) you will need atleast 6K on daily spend, you can afford it? Bing ads can give you 6K spend traffic, if yes, how many niches you will need?

    In my poor opinion there are a lot of doubts on my mind, but let's see how it goes, so good luck, Hope you reach your goal, anyway you have my 5cents.
     
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    It's a journey to 6k, he has to start somewhere, don't tell him to aim lower. He'll start from 0 then he'll rise hopefully to 6k/day, reinvesting from his revenue. Goodluck @ OP
     
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  8. PaulSmithAUS

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    I wish you the best of luck with this Journey. PPC can be a hard way to make some money online when first starting but when you get it right its highly profitable. Have you thought about joining a PPC forum (paid) to help you get on your way. They generally offer landing pages, campaigns to run and a lot of advice from people trying the exact same thing.

    They are not cheap (generally 50-200 a month) but it may save you thousands in learning time and lost money on campaigns when your starting out.

    HOpefully this journey continues for a while and I would love to see updates on how you go regularly.
     
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    Thanks for your advice. Yes I have joined a few forums but no paid ones. I'm in CPAHero and CPAElite but thats about it unless you meant I should join their VIP program? If you have any recommendations for paid PPC forums I could join, I'd appreciate it.
     
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    which ppc forum do you recommend?
     
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    6k$/day god mate, you surely have awesome dreams.

    Good Luck with the journey
     
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    Thanks for your response. Yes, I will need much more money to put into Bing Ads once I get to that stage. However, like Rickydzine said, hopefully I will be able to reinvest my profits to sustain those larger budget campaigns

    As for niches, I will of course have to be running campaigns in more than 1 niche. Like I said in the main post, I'm always starting new campaigns with new offers to see which ones will convert.

    You said you have doubts in your mind but that's the thing, when you start a journey you have to visualize yourself already having achieved your end goal. There are going to be many obstacles in your way no matter what it is your doing, it all comes down to how you look at it. Every journey is going to be hard, whether you're going to become a doctor or make 6K/day with Bing. All roads to success are going to be lonely to an extent with no one but your shadow beside you. It's you vs yourself man, dont let no doubts get in the way. Good luck with your journeys.
     
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    Good luck, wish you all the best =)
     
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    Good luck man with your journey. Follow
     
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    You're playing a hard game ... the same one I am.

    Bing will start to whack you if you keep trying to promote Peerfly offers.

    What I've been doing is setting up a landing page/domain and iframing peerfly offers so Bing can't tell near as easily from the links.
    There's no redirects to be picked up on and you're not feeding a PF link into bing.

    I use a really easy iframe template.

    Using this will save you from Bing figuring out what you're doing 99% of the time.

    Just know however that not all Peerfly offers work in iFrames.
    You'll have to set up and test each one!

    I use this same code for MaxBounty, ClickBank and more.
    I've gotten permission to use iframes. Some people say you don't need it, some say you do. I don't see a problem with it but you may want to ask your affiliate manager to be safe.

    I'm not at quite 6k/day but I'm profitable (only hundreds/month).
    My advice is don't be like me and try 20 offers at once.
    Start with maybe 3-5 and see how they play out.

    Don't be afraid to waste hundreds of dollars. I used to regret "wasted" money but it's paid me back in experience and eventual profit.

    Hope this helps some.

    Code:
    <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
    <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
        <head>
            <!-- GOOGLE ANALYTICS CODE -->
            <!-- OPTIMONK CODE FOR COLLECTING LEADS! -->
            <title>PAGE TITLE</title>
            <style type="text/css">
                body, html
                {
                    margin: 0; padding: 0; height: 100%; overflow: hidden;
                }
                #content
                {
                    position:absolute; left: 0; right: 0; bottom: 0; top: 0px;
                }
            </style>
    
        </head>
        <body>
    
            <div id="content">
                <iframe width="100%" height="100%" frameborder="0" src="URL TO OFFER" />
            </div>
    
        </body>
    </html>
    
    

    EDIT: The added advantage is you can tie in your own analytics code. On top of that, check out OptiMonk.com. You can get an account and get exit-intent code you can insert in the HEAD so if people don't follow-through with the offer you can collect their emails and feed it into Aweber or alike for follow-up later.
     
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  16. PaulSmithAUS

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    I wouldn't recommend any from personal experience. I just know they exist. One of the ones which I have heard some good things about is PPV Guru. I am not a member and have never been, I just saw some posts when I was investigating PPV and PPC previously. Don't take this as a recommendation though as I have no experience with them. Looking at their site they have campaigns you can just copy which should be profitable. I say should because I suspect they could get saturated and may need tweaks to take it from a small loss to a small profit.

    There are a few others as well. I just think the knowledge you would get out of it for maybe 3-6 months cost would set you up well on your way to being profitable.

    Do your own research as these guys might not be the best or the right ones to go with. But I suspect there should be a good paid ppc forum worth its price out there which could really help a person starting in paid traffic sources.
     
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    I'm thinking to try out a PPC myself too but still in the research process, aiming much smaller than you though lol (Looking at 100/day). Hope to learn some from your experience :)
     
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    UPDATE:

    Ok, so this is technically my first week using bing ads with peerfly. The first few days i didnt actually do anything on there so they dont count. I started fully on Thursday which is when i added majority of the campaigns

    Here's my first week performance report from Peerfly: upload_2016-10-10_16-22-1.png upload_2016-10-10_16-22-1.png

    As you can see I've only made 1 conversion. A few mistakes I made:

    1. Shouldve done more research on the offers. I wasnt promoting the right offer i.e some of them might have required long registration before conversion is reached.
    I know this might sound like an excuse but when i switched up the offers i started getting better results *see point number 3*

    2. Bidding. I wasnt bidding high enough on some campaigns which resulted in less exposure for the campaign. I was using pretty much the same bid for every campaign regardless of payout or EPC or anything. I started adjusting my bids more and getting helpful tips from Bing opportunities.

    3. Was I even promoting the best offers? I only contacted my affiliate manager today asking for the best offers to promote on Bing and she gave a nice list of offers. Im surprised i hadnt seen them before. In the coming week i will be adding those offers to my campaigns.

    4. URL/Landing page: I was direct linking to the offers which doesnt exactly help with making the ad look legit as you probably know by the look of an affiliate link.
    I followed the advice from TriumphWare (bhw user) and used iFrames on my own domains. Now the links look much more cleaner in the ads.

    5. As for the offer that actually got me the conversion here are the stats :
    upload_2016-10-10_16-32-7.png

    You'd probably be surprised to know that only 1 Ad brought in 7 clicks out of the 10. I was running 7 different ads. Shoutout to the 80/20 rule! I've now rewritten some of the ads using the copy from the ad that brought in 70% of the clicks. Even today, it's the same ad that's bringing in all the clicks whilst the other ones only get impressions.

    So yeah that's what I have for the first week(2-3 days). Any questions let me know.
     
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    So how bing ads account you have
    To get free $50 coupon we need to create multiple bing ads account with different IP address?
     
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    Right now I've only got 1 Bing account. I put a $100 coupon in it. Problem with the $50 coupon is it takes quite a while to arrive if at all, so i just used my own $100 coupon immediately and it works everytime.

    I'll probably start a second account very soon after I have some well converting ads on my current account.
     
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