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Journey to $10K/mo in 12 months from scratch with building websites

Discussion in 'My Journey Discussions' started by jonsnow2019, Jan 16, 2019.

  1. Nandhugp

    Nandhugp Registered Member

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    Also I have a very similar plan like you. I also trying to get web designs projects from fiverr(I used to get it) and I also have an idea for doing FB ads which I worked out in the past but couldn't really scale it due to lack of investment.
     
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  2. jonsnow2019

    jonsnow2019 Junior Member

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    It's a learning curve for sure. First time I used it was few years ago helping my friend with his business. It took some time to make it work. Basically these 3 things are key for me:
    1. Try to get to a specific person ([email protected] vs [email protected]) and aim for the decision maker.
    2. Try to personalize as much as possible - use mail merge type of addons/plugins and add variables.
    3. Research target niche on social media and find out enough to write a good sales pitch.
     
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  3. jonsnow2019

    jonsnow2019 Junior Member

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    Sounds cool. Let's make it happen this year!
     
  4. CPA Khaled

    CPA Khaled Newbie

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    Good luck, maybe we will meet at marketplace in the future
     
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  5. jonsnow2019

    jonsnow2019 Junior Member

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    Ok, from the 30 emails I sent yesterday I got 1 reply and 1 undelivered. Checked if the undelivered is from a spam filter, and thankfully it wasn't.

    The reply is from someone interested but they are asking too see some of my work, which I don't have yet (that's why I'm working for free to have an initial portfolio duuuh). I'll try to come up with something creative to answer so he gets hooked, but need to answer fast.

    I'll send the next batch of emails in a few hours when it's morning for the receivers.
     
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  6. jonsnow2019

    jonsnow2019 Junior Member

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    Quick update: I decided to send him my unfinished website to see as work. The homepage is almost done and that should be enough for now.
     
  7. Lemonz0

    Lemonz0 Newbie

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    Hi, I am in a very similar position to you, it seems scary with all the competition.
     
  8. jonsnow2019

    jonsnow2019 Junior Member

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    I wouldn't worry about that too much. I think customers mostly have a hard time finding web designers who respond on time, don't over-promise, deliver on time and do decent work. So if you can do that, you'll eliminate most of the competition.
     
  9. Nandhugp

    Nandhugp Registered Member

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    There are tons of business and tons of places.
     
  10. raylewis98

    raylewis98 Junior Member

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    Good Luck on your journey OP! You do have a solid and optimistic plan there.

    I just want to add up. If you are still trying to get clients offering them free sites, just contact any one you knew who had some business and make them a website just to save you some time.
    I started out doing this and built up my portfolio until I landed on creating the Municipal website of my sites hometown, and that boosted up my clients.

    Anyways here are some others I would like to add:
    1. Once you are already ready to receive payment, be sure to have an on the spot contract to show. I started out using this contract, but have revised it several times on a case by case basis. https://stuffandnonsense.co.uk/projects/contract-killer
    a. 50% DP before starting to work on the project, and the rest once it is completed.
    b. Be sure to raise your price at a level on par with other web developers/designers, so you might want to spy on competition for some time.
    c. Be sure to point out the limit of your service. (Eg. How many pages, revisions and so on...) And also the timeframe. 2 weeks is enough for small business sites, but you could raise that to a month.
    d. You could also offer a 1 week observational time once you received DP from the client (Yes, you will refund the client if you never get along). I only do this if I think I am talking to a NON DESIRABLE CLIENT (someone who might be a problem in the future). But I don't offer this to clients who I think are easy to work with.

    2. Better have your own dedi server for big scale sites. Reseller hosting for small business sites.

    3. Formidable backup solution. (Optional: Painstakingly, manual download backups of your clients sites)
     
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  11. jonsnow2019

    jonsnow2019 Junior Member

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    That's a good point. I was thinking a proposal with link to buy, but contract will come in handy too.

    Yes this was my thought too. I'll try more where I build more trust. Maybe up to 100% upfront for referrals.

    Totally agree.

    For sure. I been freelancer a while and I rejected clients based on this. Very important to me too.

    Thanks for useful tips!
     
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  12. ericshgn

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    Realistically, I don't think you'll be getting $2k per website for websites you can just pump out on the regular. I hopped onto some sort of website/web development/ui flipping for some time, it's profitable, but I think you may have been over-sold on the concept, and I have some advice for you.

    I also want to give you the benefit of the doubt on those price points, really anything is possible, it really matters how you sell your websites, and what kind of people you target.

    I've found that keeping my options open and creating websites for anything from $100-300 (no longer than an hour or two of setting up, this is usually for setting up a Shopify or WordPress or some simple app installs or fixes, and usually lead to some sort of upsell)

    $300-600 per website creation, this included consulting, product uploading, seo writing, pricing, apps, email strategy, etc, then had like. These are your dropshipping and print on demand stores.

    $1200-2000 websites which were heavenly to make because I simply have no experience developing websites outside Shopify, so I'd pay some fancy developer $200-600 for a website, and keep the rest, however over the few months that I did this, I only managed to pull one off, and got a pretty cool refund on the other (the owner gave me the website, which hasn't sold in over 2 months on Flippa).

    I would say a cool 50% of your money making is your customer service, which you seem to have down linguistically, I'm pretty sure your drive and creativity will keep you going for some time, but try not to get worn out.

    Don't lose your temper or patience with people, work within your comfort zones but try to provide something new each time, try to challenge yourself but never on anyone elses time.

    Hire a VA to handle some of your outreach, I found that this method has given me 10-20 per week, I pay my VA $1.25 per hour to search businesses in my area and email them, kinda like a chat bot but actually better.

    I teach him pretty much what to look for, what to look out for, what to send, if he's not sure, he compiles a list and sends it to me, scrapes numbers, social media accounts, etc.

    Offer your clients more, offer them social media marketing, paid advertising, content writing, photography, graphic design, basically anything you can either outsource and oversee or do yourself.

    I personally only work in social media now, hitting some road blocks with payment gateways but trying to come through strong this year.
     
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  13. jonsnow2019

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    Like you said, depends on what kind of people I target. I agree that the big ones will take more time initially.

    Ditto.

    Will do it for sure.

    Sounds cool. I'm curious what payment gateway you'll choose in the end.

    Thanks for the tips and good luck crushing it this year!
     
  14. AlexIamandi

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    Hi!

    Solid plan, I hope you will manage to stick to it!

    Did you get any new responses via email? Seems to me that 1 person actually replaying out of 30 emails is pretty low. Just asking, i don't have any experience in the field.
     
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    It's actually good. I expected 3 leads for 60 emails sent, which means 1.5 per 30 emails, so 1 reply is in the graphic considering the next batch adding up too.

    Speaking of that, I sent the remaining 30 emails earlier. Also I expect a reply today from the first lead who was interested.

    Wait when I'll start cold emailing for paid services, then the conversion won't be as high as now 3-5% (for offering free work), it will be 1% or less, which means after carefully picking 100 websites and sending a neat personalized email, I might still close nothing. But that won't matter as long as I send more.
     
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    Got the first free project from the guy who replied. It will be a one-pager, he already has a decent logo. He sent me ftp access so I'll probably have this ready and live in 2 days tops (told him Monday). All communication was over email.

    What do you guys think? Should I add customers to messenger/fb group or create a slack channel? (for quick updates and progress, keeping them engaged).

    I also got more replies, someone saying only one word: "Really?"... haha, I think he don't believe someone will help him for free. This is a good reply, high chances for closing. Also got a reply "No thanks" and I'll ask him why not?

    Next I'll focus on building the free site and finding similar businesses in the same niche.
     
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  17. Nandhugp

    Nandhugp Registered Member

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    I remember asking somebody when they said no and I got reply like "Leave me alone"
    But we also have a good chance of getting them back. People who respond are like gold. Don't let them get away easily.
     
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    Good luck ! Keep us updated
     
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    TBH even If they say nothing I'll leave them alone cause it's not worth more follow-ups just for free work.

    If I get one more free project I'll stop there and start charging. 3 is too much free work afterall.
     
  20. TimothyW

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    Following, this journey! Good luck mate.
     
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