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(Journey) Hitting Page 1 For 2 Extreme Competition Keywords!

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by ramtripper, Oct 18, 2011.

  1. ramtripper

    ramtripper BANNED BANNED

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    Hey guys, so I've been working on a site ever since I started SEO. In fact, I've started SEO because of it.

    I have 2 extremely competitive keywords which I have been trying to rank for (not the smartest move from the beginning, but that's because I knew nothing, and then after getting exp. and spending so much time on them i said screw it, let's see if i can get there). They are extremely competitive with multi-million dollar companies ranking on top and here are their stats:

    Keyword1: 13,600,000 results - 18,000 Exact Searches
    Keyword2: 8,130,000 results - 16,000 Exact Searches


    So after going up and down, and down and off-the-grid, and then back on again a few times since June of last year, I am now on page 3 for both of these keywords.

    In the last 3 months, I had a company doing manual social bookmarking, article submissions and directory links. I've pretty much stopped using them though because the rankings weren't really going anywhere at all.

    I will list the services I am getting below, but not the names, as I do not want to promote the services directly (no problem though if I see some results!)

    PM me if you want to know which services I am using exactly.

    For the last two weeks, I've been using a service and getting the following weekly:

    - 125 High PR Manual Bookmarks
    - 5 blog submissions to private blog networks
    - 100 live links from articles
    - 25 PR4+ Angela style properties
    - 100 life Wiki links


    Cost - $147/m

    Just today, I signed up to:

    2x PR 5 site homepages
    6x PR 4 site homepages
    10x PR 3 site homepages
    8x PR 2 site homepages


    (with additional posts on deeper links of the sites included in the package)

    Cost: $9.95 first month ($29.95/m thereafter)

    and also:

    2 PR6 site homepages
    15 PR5 site homepages
    40 PR4 site homepages
    40 PR3 site homepages


    Cost - $97/m

    Overall cost for this SEO campaign is:

    $273.90 per month ($253.90 this month)



    9/28 - rankings were:

    keyword1: #72
    keyword2: #72


    10/4 - rankings were:

    keyword1: #28
    keyword2: #44


    10/10 - rankings were:

    keyword1: #25
    keyword2: #29


    10/14 - rankings were:

    keyword1: #21
    keyword2: #21




    Today - rankings are:

    keyword1: #23
    keyword2: #27


    I'll be updating this page every 3-4 days with rankings for whoever is interested.
     
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  2. splot

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    Keep up the good work then!

    though i dont think this kinda technique can bring you to page 1 - theese days you simply need some very high valued and most likely white hat links to reach the top in a competetive market.

    Doing articles is very good atm though, works perfect for me - but make sure you are submitting the articles on the good sites with PR 5+ - i guess thats where u can find the most juice.

    Keep us updated though! would really like to see if such a simple technique can bring you forward even more :)
     
  3. Patel

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    He can easily hit page 1 if his site is quality.

    Bounce Rate
    Time on page

    those 2 things matter alot too
     
  4. ramtripper

    ramtripper BANNED BANNED

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    Well, I definitely tightened up my onsite seo. now im just posting new blogs a few times a week to keep the content fresh.
     
  5. Getwhatchuwant

    Getwhatchuwant Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Good thread! I have an ecommerce site and cannot really optimize the page much, like you there is a ton of competition for my words. I will be following to see how you do.
     
  6. ramtripper

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    9/28 - rankings were:

    keyword1: #72
    keyword2: #72


    10/4 - rankings were:

    keyword1: #28
    keyword2: #44


    10/10 - rankings were:

    keyword1: #25
    keyword2: #29


    10/14 - rankings were:

    keyword1: #21
    keyword2: #21


    10/18 - rankings were:

    keyword1: #23
    keyword2: #27



    Today - 10/24 - rankings are:

    keyword1: #15
    keyword2: #25
     
  7. thedon23

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    Looks good bro, keep at it!

    Mind showing us a screenshot of the top 10 competitors (obviously whiting out keywords, domains)? It'd be cool to see what you're up against.
     
  8. ramtripper

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    Ranking results for Keyword 1


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  9. pokerjk

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    Have a built quality site with LOTS of articles?

    Are you just boosting your home page?

    How do you plan to monetize and are you making money yet?
     
  10. ramtripper

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    The site is super quality. Right now I am just boosting my homepage. I am monetizing already, as this is an actual business, not just a site.

    I write an article every few days and add it to the blog, which has excerpts from new posts showing on homepage (to keep the content dynamic and ever changing).
     
  11. ibmethatswhoib

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    Nice man! Good luck, the hard work will pay off and I'm enjoying seeing it. Good stuff.
     
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  12. ramtripper

    ramtripper BANNED BANNED

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    Thanks!

    So, what I think I've learned in the last year and a half of SEO is that Google likes:


    • long-term consistency (especially) manual link building
    • relative, high pr links
    • homepage high pr links
    • big variety of links (web 2.0, blog, forum, bookmarks, press release, etc)
     
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    the #4 link... Holly ghost or what :D
     
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    ramtripper BANNED BANNED

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    hehehe, na it's not a link... traffic travis had a little brain fart and had the #4 link as:

    ?query="keyword-i-used"
     
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    9/28 - rankings were:

    keyword1: #72
    keyword2: #72


    10/4 - rankings were:

    keyword1: #28
    keyword2: #44


    10/10 - rankings were:

    keyword1: #25
    keyword2: #29


    10/14 - rankings were:

    keyword1: #21
    keyword2: #21


    10/18 - rankings were:

    keyword1: #23
    keyword2: #27


    10/24 - rankings were:

    keyword1: #15
    keyword2: #25




    Today - 11/02 - rankings are:

    keyword1: #18
    keyword2: #21


    kinda bobbling around the same positions now... wondering if I can do anymore services that'll help. Probably gonna do an "advanced" PRweb press release. Any thoughts on this?
     
  16. Lecca

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    It's dancing like a bitch on LSD ... but that's what they do for a couple of weeks (or even months) before they start to settle down. Keep building links ... it's the only way to cement your positions on the first page.
     
  17. ramtripper

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    This is true, but i've been building links for about a year... and really steadily for about 5 months now. It's not really dancing, it's just minor shifting, but not too much movement now at all and im afraid the services I have might be capping out the ranking at pretty much where it is.

    Anyone know of any other effective services or linkbuilding I can invest in (preferably a monthly one since it's consistency)?
     
  18. Emmett

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    I don't know too much about SEO, I'm kinda a newbie. Trying to rank my own site, on a much smaller scale/competitive niche. Although there is a legit guy on my niche that has a site with 230k backlinks><

    But from what I have read and learned lurking around the forum is, backlinks can't hurt (under certain circumstances maybe, but in your case with manual backlisting ect it can't) so I say keep adding more. It can only add more authority to your site. If the cost compared to the results you seem to be getting is not worth it, then you might consider. But give it more time IMO.

    As you have stated, this is a competitive KW set, and you're up against some big dogs it seems. So just keep at it.

    Wish you the best man, and I'll be checking back on this thread to see how you move up in Serps ;)
     
  19. SilverMovieDownloads

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    Try MrE's Blog Network, Its In The BST Section.
    And Build My Rank Is Good Too.
     
  20. ramtripper

    ramtripper BANNED BANNED

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    ill check out build my rank.. but honestly, ive tried the Blog Network and it didn't do much for me last time... maybe ill give it another shot in a week if nothing budges. thanks for the tip though!