[Journey] Growing a niche website from scratch with Pinterest as a main traffic source. [Goal: 10m+ monthly Pinterest views]

Avoid automation, avoid using new accounts, avoid high competition keywords
 
m more than happy with the trajectory of my new account so far. I've also added a bunch of new posts, because why not? The site currently sits at 61 total posts. More than half of those are new, so I'm officially done with adding any new content for the next few weeks. Pinning and scheduling is all handled by Blogtopin for this acc.
I'm glad that you are making good progress, keep up with the good work.
 
Im not sure if similarweb accounts for pinterest traffic { I havent seen any tool that accurately gives the traffic a site is getting from pinterest as there are a lot of factors involved like the niche and CTR rate.

I said $20,000 per month estimate as my account is in the same niche and RPM is close to $100. With 1 million pinterest views i was making $2000, so i can imagine an account with 10 million views in the same niche could be $2000 X 10 , which is $20,000
wtf... $100 RPM, never seen that. Can you tell me mate the broad niche you are in? I know niches like Personal injury, injury attorney, insurance, you name it, have insane CPC but they are targeted for SEO traffic. I never heard of anyone getting $100 RPM on Pinterest even from those high-roller gurus.

To be honest, IMHO Pinterest views are inflated numbers I don't give a dime. What actually matters is outbound clicks, so how many outbound clicks did you have to get to $20K?
 
wtf... $100 RPM, never seen that. Can you tell me mate the broad niche you are in? I know niches like Personal injury, injury attorney, insurance, you name it, have insane CPC but they are targeted for SEO traffic. I never heard of anyone getting $100 RPM on Pinterest even from those high-roller gurus.

To be honest, IMHO Pinterest views are inflated numbers I don't give a dime. What actually matters is outbound clicks, so how many outbound clicks did you have to get to $20K?
He clearly said home & decor, this niche is competitive to health and finance in RPM
 
wtf... $100 RPM, never seen that. Can you tell me mate the broad niche you are in? I know niches like Personal injury, injury attorney, insurance, you name it, have insane CPC but they are targeted for SEO traffic. I never heard of anyone getting $100 RPM on Pinterest even from those high-roller gurus.

To be honest, IMHO Pinterest views are inflated numbers I don't give a dime. What actually matters is outbound clicks, so how many outbound clicks did you have to get to $20K?
I never said that i have made $20,000. Was estimating the income for https://straightforwardspaces.com/. With $100 RPM, to make $20,000 would just need like 200,000 Pageviews per month. Niche is like https://www.pinterest.com/shreyadalela , although my focus was creating any pinterest friendly content., so a mix of home and fashion.
 
I'm still not convinced they are blacklisting IP ranges, browser fingerprints, etc. If that was the case, my new account shouldn't ever have passed the sandbox.

Were you pinning aggressively from the start? I started out with 2-3 pins daily in the first 2-3 weeks to not piss off the algorithm. I'm now slowly ramping up the numbers, but nothing crazy, and keeping it around 10 pins a day.
Not really that aggresive, started with 4-5 a day, and then upped it to 10 a day. Recently started a new one on proxy with anti detect, it was starting to rank but again today it's gone to 0.

I dont really know what I'm doing wrong tbh. There is no way they could have connected it to my other accounts, but whenever there is an update it seems like all the account are effected at the same time.
 

Dead account back to life episode [XX]?​

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I lost count of the times the algo has teased this account. The most recent one didn't last very long; I think it was two days before it collapsed to its usual 3-5k daily impressions. Here's hoping to make it at least till the end of the week. :D
Not really that aggresive, started with 4-5 a day, and then upped it to 10 a day. Recently started a new one on proxy with anti detect, it was starting to rank but again today it's gone to 0.

I dont really know what I'm doing wrong tbh. There is no way they could have connected it to my other accounts, but whenever there is an update it seems like all the account are effected at the same time.
It could be related to the niche. Maybe try your approach in a different niche and see if the results are the same.

Other things I can think of: the number of pins per URL and whether you're spacing them out throughout the days, very low save rate/CTR, which might trigger some sort of a shadowban, or users being pissed off and massively reporting your pins (only assuming you're doing low-quality AI images in the first place).
 
I lost count of the times the algo has teased this account. The most recent one didn't last very long; I think it was two days before it collapsed to its usual 3-5k daily impressions. Here's hoping to make it at least till the end of the week. :D
If I hadn't lost my old account maybe it would have picked up again.

The account replacing is just fluctuating. Are these results from newer pins or older ones?
 
If I hadn't lost my old account maybe it would have picked up again.

The account replacing is just fluctuating. Are these results from newer pins or older ones?
I just analyzed the top 50 pins for the last 24 hours, and only 10 of those are new pins. My top pin right now is from May.

The account had this TOBI/collage pin shadowban, where 90% of the top pins were image-only. Now, it's the other way around, with probably 90%+ being TOBI/collages.
 
The account had this TOBI/collage pin shadowban, where 90% of the top pins were image-only. Now, it's the other way around, with probably 90%+ being TOBI/collages.
Interesting, meaning text on background could be back.
 
With my new account never used proxies, always done 50-200 pins per day, had some small hiccups, added new style to a mix keeps climbing, my first account spammed the hell out of it by using images from Pinterest it self mainly competitors or other niche accounts I found on Pinterest.

I doubt you need proxy for Pinterest, why the hell they would have option to add additional accounts.... (save your money on that stuff)…

The only reason I think my accounts live and some of your ones dies are the fact that I post content for sake of posting and not "luring" users from Pinterest with pins etc "10 funniest pumpkin ideas" and move them to a blog post with amazon affiliated pumpkin carving shit :D (I do Pinterest for fun as social proof for my site and not to make money from it).

Some pins have to be just a pretty/cool image and that's that.

But if you want to make money I would suggest trying something like 2:8 ratio where you post etc 8 pins that give instant value (and by value I mean it gives them same 10 damn pumpkin images in one pin) without them needing to go to your site (that's up to your niche to come up with) and then mix some pins that actually promotes etc come to our blog post to find "best tools for pumpkin carving", or "how to draw an carve funny pumpkins".

People come to Pinterest get ideas, so give them that, not shove shit to buy or blogs to read and visit. :D

With that said every pin will still have your site attached to it but will not be pushy to click and go to your site to get the value instead of just providing inspiration. I think this is where you will get more saves, recurring views, reactions, comments, and followers.

My pins are at scale of 4 from 10 compared to the other ones in my niche created by my competitors, but I have 20k+ pins where they maybe have 2k so for me its numbers game where my time to this Pinterest account is dedicated to just check if its posting and check numbers if its still kicking, I put no time and effort on it a all, per month I spend maybe 10 mins in total to check stats of it :D
 
It could be related to the niche. Maybe try your approach in a different niche and see if the results are the same.

Other things I can think of: the number of pins per URL and whether you're spacing them out throughout the days, very low save rate/CTR, which might trigger some sort of a shadowban, or users being pissed off and massively reporting your pins (only assuming you're doing low-quality AI images in the first place).
Thanks for the suggestions, can you tell what save % I should aim for? Or what is your save rate
 
With my new account never used proxies, always done 50-200 pins per day, had some small hiccups, added new style to a mix keeps climbing, my first account spammed the hell out of it by using images from Pinterest it self mainly competitors or other niche accounts I found on Pinterest.

I doubt you need proxy for Pinterest, why the hell they would have option to add additional accounts.... (save your money on that stuff)…

The only reason I think my accounts live and some of your ones dies are the fact that I post content for sake of posting and not "luring" users from Pinterest with pins etc "10 funniest pumpkin ideas" and move them to a blog post with amazon affiliated pumpkin carving shit :D (I do Pinterest for fun as social proof for my site and not to make money from it).

Some pins have to be just a pretty/cool image and that's that.

But if you want to make money I would suggest trying something like 2:8 ratio where you post etc 8 pins that give instant value (and by value I mean it gives them same 10 damn pumpkin images in one pin) without them needing to go to your site (that's up to your niche to come up with) and then mix some pins that actually promotes etc come to our blog post to find "best tools for pumpkin carving", or "how to draw an carve funny pumpkins".

People come to Pinterest get ideas, so give them that, not shove shit to buy or blogs to read and visit. :D

With that said every pin will still have your site attached to it but will not be pushy to click and go to your site to get the value instead of just providing inspiration. I think this is where you will get more saves, recurring views, reactions, comments, and followers.

My pins are at scale of 4 from 10 compared to the other ones in my niche created by my competitors, but I have 20k+ pins where they maybe have 2k so for me its numbers game where my time to this Pinterest account is dedicated to just check if its posting and check numbers if its still kicking, I put no time and effort on it a all, per month I spend maybe 10 mins in total to check stats of it :D
You said it yourself: you have a completely different approach to automation on Pinterest. Your goal isn't necessarily to drive the most traffic back to your blog.

I absolutely need to squeeze the last drop because if I don't, my competition will. Studying the most successful accounts in every niche reveals patterns. 99% of them are in it for the traffic, and you can say that they have clickbaity pins in their nature. I wouldn't necessarily say that's a bad thing, either. This is how the platform works.

I also think most of my pins provide an out-of-the-box value even if you don't visit the actual site, but ultimately, the user experience will be better if they click through and scroll through the various ideas on the post.

I've made sure the UX is as good as it gets: a short introduction that gets out of the way almost immediately, clear separation between the listicle items, a straight-to-the-point description about each item, an always-on-display save button for each image, which benefits not only me but the user as well, and so on.

And yes, AI images and content can be helpful. We are very close to a point where it will become very hard to differentiate AI from real images. AI does an amazing job in niches where it can use its freedom and not stick to a definitive standard. Personally, I wouldn't use it in niches like recipes or crafts where you need perfect match pictures that illustrate the process and achievable end result.
Thanks for the suggestions, can you tell what save % I should aim for? Or what is your save rate
Well, I don't have a specific % you should be looking at. I guess it depends on the niche and type of pins you are putting out. Try to mix in image-only pins alongside TOBIs/collages. They should boost your saves. I made the mistake of neglecting them, but I think they play a role in keeping your save rate at a good level.
 
I absolutely need to squeeze the last drop because if I don't, my competition will. Studying the most successful accounts in every niche reveals patterns. 99% of them are in it for the traffic, and you can say that they have clickbaity pins in their nature. I wouldn't necessarily say that's a bad thing, either. This is how the platform works.
So if you do need to squeeze cash from it, wouldn't it be better to have it for a long run make it "sustainable" than being nuked to the ground? If your competitors do same thing they face same problem why don't be the one that lasts and is time tested, the users will be flocking to you rather then them in long term?

One of my reasons why my first account has 600k followers is that I done it for so long with not giving a fk what others done as long as I was moving forward, in those years of that account my competitors came and gone and iam still there :D

Create a test account as you already done for other purposes, do the 2:8 ratio or so and see how it goes, nothing to loose? ;)

I rather take it slow (and by slow I mean slow with sales posts) and get 1/4th of what you get but more certainty that it will not go down the drain :D
 
With my new account never used proxies, always done 50-200 pins per day, had some small hiccups, added new style to a mix keeps climbing, my first account spammed the hell out of it by using images from Pinterest it self mainly competitors or other niche accounts I found on Pinterest.

I doubt you need proxy for Pinterest, why the hell they would have option to add additional accounts.... (save your money on that stuff)…

The only reason I think my accounts live and some of your ones dies are the fact that I post content for sake of posting and not "luring" users from Pinterest with pins etc "10 funniest pumpkin ideas" and move them to a blog post with amazon affiliated pumpkin carving shit :D (I do Pinterest for fun as social proof for my site and not to make money from it).

Some pins have to be just a pretty/cool image and that's that.

But if you want to make money I would suggest trying something like 2:8 ratio where you post etc 8 pins that give instant value (and by value I mean it gives them same 10 damn pumpkin images in one pin) without them needing to go to your site (that's up to your niche to come up with) and then mix some pins that actually promotes etc come to our blog post to find "best tools for pumpkin carving", or "how to draw an carve funny pumpkins".

People come to Pinterest get ideas, so give them that, not shove shit to buy or blogs to read and visit. :D

With that said every pin will still have your site attached to it but will not be pushy to click and go to your site to get the value instead of just providing inspiration. I think this is where you will get more saves, recurring views, reactions, comments, and followers.

My pins are at scale of 4 from 10 compared to the other ones in my niche created by my competitors, but I have 20k+ pins where they maybe have 2k so for me its numbers game where my time to this Pinterest account is dedicated to just check if its posting and check numbers if its still kicking, I put no time and effort on it a all, per month I spend maybe 10 mins in total to check stats of it :D
Roughly how much traffic are you getting to your site with these 20k Pins.

Im starting Pinterest (journey coming soon) and am leaning towards this more sustainable approach. My nice is mainly vintage decor items and furniture etc.
 
I am very much inspired on the journey and now I wanted to start from 0 can you share the basic advice like how many pins to started with? any inputs will be highly appreciated.
 
Another thing I observed is that posting everyday boost traffic because Pinterest would steadily recommend your pins more, I noticed a very bad decline when I didn’t post for a week, I think Pinterest recommendations algorithm is tied to how active a Pinterest board is. So always post everyday! THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT
 
That’s why I read that if you create a pin always save that new pin to multiple board with similar keywords, each board would push Pinterest algorithm to recommend that pin more
 
Roughly how much traffic are you getting to your site with these 20k Pins.

Im starting Pinterest (journey coming soon) and am leaning towards this more sustainable approach. My nice is mainly vintage decor items and furniture etc.
hmm 1.2-1.5k I roughly, hence this is set and forget strat I used no further touches needed :)
 
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