[Journey] Get Rich or Die Trying! My LONG Journey from $0 to $10,000,000/yr on Ebay

UserIDz said:
For phone numbers, should I get those that I’ll keep forever or can I just get temporary numbers (non-voip)?
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you just need a number for quick verification, a temporary non-VOIP number works fine. You can get from legitsms.com.
 
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Rain005 said:
you just need a number for quick verification, a temporary non-VOIP number works fine. You can get from legitsms.com.
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This is not true, you want a number that you can keep if you are planning to grow your account.
 
Since my original details with eBay were banned a long time ago, it's been an uphill battle trying to stay on the site. My issue is just account creation. In regard to that, which would you advise is better? A virtual machine with a mobile hotspot IP? Or a user account with mobile hotspot IP? I ask because I remember reading that the issue with having a new user account is that the fingerprint would be the same. Would having a virtual machine change that? And if so, what would I have to do to make the virtual machine friendly to eBay so that it doesn't get banned?
 
acsbiz said:
Since my original details with eBay were banned a long time ago, it's been an uphill battle trying to stay on the site. My issue is just account creation. In regard to that, which would you advise is better? A virtual machine with a mobile hotspot IP? Or a user account with mobile hotspot IP? I ask because I remember reading that the issue with having a new user account is that the fingerprint would be the same. Would having a virtual machine change that? And if so, what would I have to do to make the virtual machine friendly to eBay so that it doesn't get banned?
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I have pointed out that ebay does not perma ban your details. Based on what I experience, if they ban you, they are only banning you for a few weeks to a few months.

if you are referring to vps for virtual machine, then I don't recommend it, it is clunky and expensive, there are better ways to create a new finger print for your browser via gologin.

to make your browser more ebay friendly, you will need browsing cookies/history on ebay and no ebay sites, and you will need quite a history of it. you can use them for your normal browsing for a month or so to accumulate these cookies/history.
 
PandaDaddy said:
I have pointed out that ebay does not perma ban your details. Based on what I experience, if they ban you, they are only banning you for a few weeks to a few months.

if you are referring to vps for virtual machine, then I don't recommend it, it is clunky and expensive, there are better ways to create a new finger print for your browser via gologin.

to make your browser more ebay friendly, you will need browsing cookies/history on ebay and no ebay sites, and you will need quite a history of it. you can use them for your normal browsing for a month or so to accumulate these cookies/history.
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Thank you for the reply. I know they don't permaban name, dob, and ssn. I figured it was something else wrong with my account creation setup. Just so I understand, for account creation, you would recommend something like gologin? And then with gologin, would I build the cookies on there? Or with a normal browser? I'm asking this in regard to initially registering the account. I also ask because the approach I had with eBay is trying to make you look as normal as a user as possible. Registering with an antidetect browser would set off some of eBay's flags, would it not?
 
acsbiz said:
Thank you for the reply. I know they don't permaban name, dob, and ssn. I figured it was something else wrong with my account creation setup. Just so I understand, for account creation, you would recommend something like gologin? And then with gologin, would I build the cookies on there? Or with a normal browser? I'm asking this in regard to initially registering the account. I also ask because the approach I had with eBay is trying to make you look as normal as a user as possible. Registering with an antidetect browser would set off some of eBay's flags, would it not?
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the gologin browser is no different than a regular browser in the eye of ebay. each gologin browser will give you a unique set of hardware fingerprint to avoid detection. However, you will still experience high level of ban probability even if you do everything right. so you need a whole farm of browsers that have been warmed up, not just a few.
 
PandaDaddy said:
the gologin browser is no different than a regular browser in the eye of ebay. each gologin browser will give you a unique set of hardware fingerprint to avoid detection. However, you will still experience high level of ban probability even if you do everything right. so you need a whole farm of browsers that have been warmed up, not just a few.
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Understood. Trust me I know haha, been in this eBay game for years, nothing is guaranteed. When you say warmed up, do you mean build cookies by browsing on just eBay?
 
PandaDaddy said:
the gologin browser is no different than a regular browser in the eye of ebay. each gologin browser will give you a unique set of hardware fingerprint to avoid detection. However, you will still experience high level of ban probability even if you do everything right. so you need a whole farm of browsers that have been warmed up, not just a few.
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I saw your previous mention of multilogin—would you recommend gologin instead now?

And how about adsPower? How does it compare? Does it do the same thing as gologin or are there any key differences?
 
Hey, i saw previously you said warming up accounts for 3 months, now you mention 1 month, do you mean warming up the browser profile with non ebay cookies for 1 month and then create the ebay account and warm it up for 3 months before selling, or do you mean warming up the ebay account alongside the non ebay websites for 1 month total before selling?
 
acsbiz said:
Understood. Trust me I know haha, been in this eBay game for years, nothing is guaranteed. When you say warmed up, do you mean build cookies by browsing on just eBay?
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It needs to be a mixture of other sites and ebay, it looks more natural that way.
UserIDz said:
I saw your previous mention of multilogin—would you recommend gologin instead now?

And how about adsPower? How does it compare? Does it do the same thing as gologin or are there any key differences?
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all anti detect softwares are similar except for thunderbird, if you can get your hands on thunderbird, you should use it. Otherwise, multilogin, gologin all provide better protection than not using anything.
johnwickdog said:
Hey, i saw previously you said warming up accounts for 3 months, now you mention 1 month, do you mean warming up the browser profile with non ebay cookies for 1 month and then create the ebay account and warm it up for 3 months before selling, or do you mean warming up the ebay account alongside the non ebay websites for 1 month total before selling?
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there is no exact time really, the point is not to use it immediately after its creation, but to accumulate history and cookies. It would be suspicious if someone use a brand new browser to open an ebay account. I used to go by 2-3 months warm up, but now due to the sheer number of accounts, we have limited labor capabilities, so we kinda shorten the warm up period a little to make it easier for us to manage.
 
PandaDaddy said:
It needs to be a mixture of other sites and ebay, it looks more natural that way.

all anti detect softwares are similar except for thunderbird, if you can get your hands on thunderbird, you should use it. Otherwise, multilogin, gologin all provide better protection than not using anything.

there is no exact time really, the point is not to use it immediately after its creation, but to accumulate history and cookies. It would be suspicious if someone use a brand new browser to open an ebay account. I used to go by 2-3 months warm up, but now due to the sheer number of accounts, we have limited labor capabilities, so we kinda shorten the warm up period a little to make it easier for us to manage.
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Thanks for the answer. I recently tried doing something similar and i see a loss of 9 ebay account and only 6 survivors, from the total 15 accounts i made, these account have almost 2 months of warm-up, i was wondering is this rate normal, are you experiencing a similar loss/ success percentile, because i feel like i am doing something wrong?
 
PandaDaddy said:
all anti detect softwares are similar except for thunderbird, if you can get your hands on thunderbird, you should use it. Otherwise, multilogin, gologin all provide better protection than not using anything
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- What makes thunderbird stand out for antidetection purposes?

- What are your thoughts on using a vm or anydesk? Would either of these be a better choice than thunderbird or other browsers?

- When you use VAs, how do you have them access your accounts? Are they from the same location? If you’re hiring people from different geos, how do you keep things safe?
 
johnwickdog said:
Thanks for the answer. I recently tried doing something similar and i see a loss of 9 ebay account and only 6 survivors, from the total 15 accounts i made, these account have almost 2 months of warm-up, i was wondering is this rate normal, are you experiencing a similar loss/ success percentile, because i feel like i am doing something wrong?
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That is pretty normal, I would say.
 
UserIDz said:
- What makes thunderbird stand out for antidetection purposes?

- What are your thoughts on using a vm or anydesk? Would either of these be a better choice than thunderbird or other browsers?

- When you use VAs, how do you have them access your accounts? Are they from the same location? If you’re hiring people from different geos, how do you keep things safe?
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To start, they offer a set of clean IPs which I tested to be working great with ebay. These IPs can only be binded to their browsers. And seemingly, there is unlimited supply of such ips. Another advantage is I never have any issue with them failing to close the broswer and update the cookies, some other programs sometimes will run into error when you close the browser and try to update the cookies.

vm or anydesk can only offer 1 set of hardware finger print, it is too difficult to produce different browser finger prints.

I don't use VAs. these accounts are too valuable for them to handle. I have 3 in house employees who I oversee daily to operate these accounts.
 
SolidGrow said:
Scaling to $10M/year on eBay is an insane goal! Are you focusing on a specific product category or testing multiple niches?
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initially, it was everything under sky. slowly, we developed in 1 main flagship niche, and 4 other profitable niche,
 
PandaDaddy said:
initially, it was everything under sky. slowly, we developed in 1 main flagship niche, and 4 other profitable niche,
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Has drenching out to a major niche helped with your account suspensions?

Also did you notice that after accounts have been selling stably form6 months they helardly ban them?
 
elodavid said:
Has drenching out to a major niche helped with your account suspensions?

Also did you notice that after accounts have been selling stably form6 months they helardly ban them?
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Once it hits 3 month mark, there is hardly any suspesion.

suspension has no relation with what line of products you are selling as long as your products are legal to sell on ebay.
 
johnwickdog said:
Thanks for the answer. I recently tried doing something similar and i see a loss of 9 ebay account and only 6 survivors, from the total 15 accounts i made, these account have almost 2 months of warm-up, i was wondering is this rate normal, are you experiencing a similar loss/ success percentile, because i feel like i am doing something wrong?
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