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Journey from penalized domain back to top of google and $500 per day

Discussion in 'My Journey Discussions' started by Zombie Pop, Mar 26, 2014.

  1. Zombie Pop

    Zombie Pop Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    This will be my first really meaningful thread here. I want to start this journey to share my experience with everyone, and also have some direction/accountability to get my life back on track. Thanks to anyone who may have some guidance for me, or just for reading. I hope by the end of it, this will remain to help other people who were in my shoes. I am on a mission to re-rank a once penalized domain, and start making $500 dollars a day again (and regain my life again).

    I started an eCommerce store in early 2012. I make, market, and ship these products out of my house. I'm sure probably some of you are thinking "what are you making? bracelets?" I won't tell you what I make, except that they are 1. exotic, 2. rare, and 3. in demand by a particular niche :)

    Starting out in 2012 I was 100% a noob to SEO, and still am. I have come a long way, but still have a very long way to go. I bought stupid services, like directory submissions and the crap that Google hates now, but they did work back then. I sat at the top of a Google SERP of over 9000 searches per month +/- and several others not quite as high, and was complacent, totally blind to the updates Google was preparing to launch that would send me from being very comfortable to despair and long sleepless nights (its 2:33am as I type).

    In may/june of 2013 my rankings slowly started to fall from #1 to number 10 to number 15 and so on. I panicked and bought some more dumb services thinking this was what I needed. More backlinks. "web 2" submissions, profile links, you know the run down. When this didnt work I went and bought some High PR links. These worked fantastic! I was back to number 1 in no time and raking in the dough again! Then as quick as I got there, I was nowhere to be found... PENALIZED for unnatural links. The service was from here in BHW and I was told "oh yea its safe to link these straight to your website..." lol I got the links removed by cancelling the subscription, and google lifted that penalization.

    So now going on 8-9 months later I have just been watching and reading everything I can, mostly here on BHW. Looking for the trends, listening to SEO's.. Meanwhile my web store is and has been steady ranking #200 for it's main money term. It's time to rebuild and re-rank.

    THE PLAN:


    I have several tools available to me:

    GSA SER + SER engines web 2.0
    FCS Networker
    Scrapebox
    The Best Spinner


    • After looking at my link profile I know I need more branding. My anchor text's literally have no diversity or branding. The most used anchor is my money keywords.
    • Dilute anchor text ratios with branded anchor text using unique articles on web 2's
    • Build a very small private blog network made of 5 high quality mostly relevant websites to also aid in diluting anchor text and getting higher quality links
    • Slowly build links to these websites using more high quality articles, that are mostly related (so as not to be as obvious) from web 2.0 sites
    • Over time acquire aged domains and add them into the PBN
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    I do own an exact match domain and a partial match domain for my biggest money keyword. I have considered building them at the same time as this project. I really don't want to abandon my branded domain though, as my customers know it, all my good reviews in google are for it (which get me most of my sales I think)... I have read that it is nearly impossible to get a domain thats been penalized to rank again, and its just easier to get a new domain and start over. I hope that this will be successful.

    Wish me luck! Any comments/suggestions are welcome and appreciated.

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  2. RankSnatcher

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    Woah! Good to know the penalty was lifted.

    Time to go ahead. But be careful with what you do with money site.

    At least know the consequences before taking any steps with the site.

    The results will definitely be good. Good luck OP.
     
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  3. iknowyouknowme

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    You are on the right track already, expand your PBN as much as you can while looking after them just as you would with your money sites. You would jump huge spots pretty quick.
     
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    Good luck. GSA and blogs could never go bad. I will be watching this
     
  5. Zombie Pop

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    Thanks guys, I appreciate the support and kind words. If you cant tell, this business is my passion in life. I have tried CPA with PPV and PPC, and I just hated it. I want to do what I like to in in life :)

    So in the meantime while I work on all this, I figured I would *try to* rank a YT video, for my money keywords, that I made about a year ago by blasting it to hell with GSA :D I'm having some fun at least
     
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    So far work on this is going pretty well. I've written 10 unique articles so far, all between 500-2000 words. I wound up downloading the free trial of chimp rewriter, just to play with it. So far it pretty much does the same thing as TBS, but I like the text add box at the bottom for rewriting at the sentence level before spinning at word level.

    I've also spent probably 5 good hours on rewriting and spinning one article that I wrote. This is a lot of work but it translates to A LOT of unique content.

    I should have one of the domains up for the blog network up tonight with content on it. :)
     
  7. erickishere

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    Glad to see your penalty is removed. Hope to see you make it! Good luck
     
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    Having the penalty removed is cool, but even nicer is to stay away from the issues in the months to come and rank :)
     
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  9. Zombie Pop

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    Thanks! The penalty has actually been lifted since around October of 2013. I've just been reading and reading trying to wrap my head around the best way to go about this.

    After using market samurai and ahrefs (free trial :p ) I have discovered that my main competitor does indeed have a PBN. It's not a what you would think a PBN would be though, it's totally obvious. The page that is ranking number 3 (and has been since 2005) has very few backlinks, but powerful, mostly from this PBN. The domains he uses on his PBN are punished with (quality?) spam, and do not rank at all, but are still indexed...

    As for me, I think I know exactly how to go about this now, just a little more discreet than he is.

    What I have done --

    Ok I'm really digging chimp rewriter and word ai paired up. Making content is so easy now with these two, it's unbelievable. I think I am done with The best spinner forever. I also got kontent machine, since they offer me my money back if I am not satisfied. KM3 is also really cool. It scrapes some really decent articles quick. I just dont think its worth the $37.00 per month if you have scrapebox, chimp rewriter, and word ai...

    So I have 37 unique articles written so far, thanks mostly to word ai. I still have to edit them here and there, but its better than rewriting the whole article for sure.

    I'll post back in a few more days or so, hopefully I will have the majority of the PBN up and internally linked (not to mean link wheel just linking between pages on each individual domain) etc etc. by the end of this week, and can start on the web 2 part

    I'm sure you guys have seen very similar diagrams 100 times. It's basically my visual idea of my plan that I learned from here mostly. Nothing new. This is also not concrete at all. Any tips or comments are of course welcome.
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  10. jimmyr

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    That is awesome to hear man. Glad you're loving it :D
     
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    sounds like you are on the way to recovery goodluck :) took me 6 months :)
     
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    I would like to see how you climb b to the top, all the best bro!
     
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    so not much work has happened in the last 2-3 days on this. Had some server issues come up that had to be tracked down and fixed. If theres any sys admins in the house, I must say mod_ruid2, prefork, and DSO are pretty awesome :D I've never seen a magento webstore load in under 1 second before.. until i reconfigured apache and php!!

    I'll be picking up the slack tonight.
     
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    gooood luck buddy. GSA is the best tool for blogs.
     
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    I've made quite a bit of progress on this since my last update. I have 5 websites up in the PBN, and all have at least 10 pages of unique content (silo style). I've written and scraped then rewritten SO MANY articles my brain is melting...

    But its paying off a little :D

    Heres a little screen shot of some good serp movement with 20 new branded links from the PBN. I'm feeling pretty good, even though my rankings still really suck. It will be no time to 500 bucks a day at this rate (I hope).
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    I have already found a good windows vps for GSA and scrape box. I'll go ahead and harvest the hell out of google to make an awesome site list for GSA just to stay ahead.

    Thanks for reading, sorry such a short and low content post. I'll have something much more in depth in a couple of days. I'm hoping these ranks EXPLODE! Some of these terms should be simple to rank for but I screwed my link profile up pretty decent... So it might take a little longer, if I can even fix it.
     
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    Is your PBN domain is aged domain with good PA/DA. How many backlink you have on your PBN sites
     
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    PBN is mostly freshly registered domains on different IP's. Some I purchased last year. All have private registration. Each domain has at least 15 pages of unique content that is either closely related to my estore, or slightly related. Each domain has various amounts of contextual tier one links being dripped from a small variety of platforms to the tune of about 10 links per week (its random for each no set number). Types of links are:

    • Web 2.0
    • A few high PR article directories
    • A few high PR social bookmarking sites
    • A few High PR wiki sites
    • Social signals to all PBN domains (twitter, fb, and G+)

    All tier one links to the pbn are using unique content 100% copyscape passed. No more than 5 variations of one article. Hand chosen related images and videos. I'm treating them like money sites as was suggested.

    I'll be sending social signals to the money site as well, and building a few web 2 links to the money site. Probably build something like a weebly landing page/site to churn and burn which will link to the money site while I am working on all these, and adding more domains to the PBN.

    rankings today
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    ...Long story short. If you get penalized for unnatural links, dont waste your time trying to fix the website. It doesnt work. They must have some kind of filter or sandbox that will keep you from ever ranking right again, or at least for a long period of time.

    I bought the .co version of my domain and 301ed the old one to it after copying all the content to the new domain. Main KW is dancing between 42 and 55. All of the low comp/difficulty are ranking in the teens to low 20's. I just started pointing a few of my PBN backlinks at the home page, very slowly. No results from that yet as google probably hasnt revisited those pages yet...

    IMO its not possible to fix a website that has had a manual spam action.
     
  19. gambites

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    Hey, Great thread. So you are saying that for your penalized domain, it's not worth trying to fix the website? It's best to move on by doing a 301 from the old domain to the new?
     
  20. Zombie Pop

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    Let me clarify. The domain was penalized for unnatural links. I bought high pr links from a service here that gave me a bunch of crappy footer links on russian websites in with foreign languages. I got the manual penalty removed about 6 - 8 months before I started this thread.

    So that being said yes it's really not worth it to continue trying to work with a domain that got hit for unnatural links, and getting the manual spam action revoked because it just wont rank again. Nothing I did brought it out past position 150 for its main kw and its hardly moderate competition.

    I simply pointed the .co DNS to my name servers and restored the files and database, then 301 the .com to the .co. I got something to work with now.

    I wouldnt recommend using a 301 to point a domain that still has a manual spam action on it in GWT, to a new domain that you intend to rank and have lasting rankings. You should get the penalty removed first before 301 redirecting to a new domain.
     
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