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[Journey] Follow an Aussie noob as I try to get on page 1 starting from nothing, MNS+ads

Discussion in 'My Journey Discussions' started by zoonosis, Nov 28, 2014.

  1. zoonosis

    zoonosis Newbie

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    Hi all
    Been a bhw member for ages, but mainly a lurker sucking in all the knowledge. Then I got distracted and went about living my life. After a realisation that my 9 to 5 job sucks, im giving this a go....a REAL go....taking MASSIVE action this time. Not just "oh thats a good idea" and then read another post "oh thats a good idea too" and so on. Too much reading and dreaming, not enough action.


    So follow me as I try to rank to page 1 and make some passive cash. Im not expecting to retire on this, but id say if I get it right, all I'll have to do is rinse and repeat over and over. If one micro niche site can make $5-$10 per day, then 20 should make $100 to $200. If I can get to $200 bucks a day in passive income, then I can quit my job and concentrate on working for myself.


    The key I believe is taking action though. Before I was reading and not investing much, I tried a few things all via free methods and if they didnt work, so be it. This time Ive actually shelled out money. Ive purchased hosting and and domain name. To get started Ive used a bhw service to give me a keyword that has around $1.5 CPC and 1000 searches per month. I was trying for ages to find a good niche but hey, why not delegate. It keeps things moving and me motivated, which is key...motivation. If im not moving forward ill lose interest and give up or get frustrated and give up.


    Another thing that is different this time is this thread. Im going to post in here as often as I can, whether I get replys/comments or not. It will keep me accountable for my actions and also be the basis of a blog I write later on about starting in IM.


    Anyways enough rambling here is a summary of where im at so far.


    1. purchased a .com domain with my keyword in it
    2. installed wordpress and analytics
    3. hired a provider on bhw to get my site initially setup with a theme, some pics and 2 articles


    So far total outlay has been


    Domain and hosting = AUD$95
    In that I got my domain name for 1 year, whois protection on the domain (stops people snooping on me) and the hosting account lets me add up to 50 domains at once. Therefore my next microniche site will just cost me the price of the domain. More sites I make the cheaper it becomes overall for the hosting as its divided amongst all the assets.


    MNS service
    I paid for 1 site which gave me 1 keyword, 1000+ searches and $1+ cpc. Its supposed to come with 2 articles and some other things. The site is not finished yet should be in a day or two. Cost was AUD$40.
    Ill review the service when its finished. Im not too shabby with wordpress so I may just use a keyword research service next time to cut down costs as im not really across how to find the best keywords to use.


    Next steps
    1. wait till site gets finished
    2. in the meantime research some more article ideas and get them sorted. Write some myself, spin some others. When the site is done then I can just upload them.
    3. polish up the site when its done, not sure these guys are graphic artists
    4. do some more research on essential wordpress plugins I need.
    5. figure out how I can track my site's ranking as I go so I know if im doing the right things or not.


    That will do for now, another update in a few days.
     
  2. somedevil

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    Just one thing man. Learn to setup your own site. If you're in it for the long run that is. Learning simple things like making small customizations to the themes (which requires common sense more than programming knowledge), making a quick banner and working with images will save you time and money both.

    Good luck mate and don't give up too soon :)
     
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  3. dazk2002

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    I agree with somedevil, make your own sites that way you're not constantly paying out good money for new sites. By all means buy your KWs if your not very good at doing the research yourself. I've been making MNSs for the past 2 years and in that time I've got most of them to page 1 of Google.
    To start you off you can use one of the free trial versions of MS or LTP etc. In fact I noticed that a BHW member had posted a cracked MS version on here during the last week.
    Either way, I wish you all the best luck and I'm sure you'll do OK.
     
  4. theqbot

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    Hello zoonosis!
    I am also just starting but I decided to build one big authority site instead of MNS. What is your excuse to make MNS's?
    How are you going to monetize them?
    I wish you the best luck with your site!
     
  5. zoonosis

    zoonosis Newbie

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    @dazk2002, @somedevil - The next few sites I make will be by myself. I really only used the paid services here to get things started and moving quickly....and also to see an example of what I needed to do going forward. I got KWs a few articles and the site for one price so thought id give it a go. I spend more cash out drinking on the weekend so it doesnt bother me. But you are right, going forward I will need to do it on my own. I'll check out market samurai, thanks for the tip.

    @theqbot - Im going to monetise by using adsense and then down the track I might go for amazon affliate links, selling products that are to do with my niche.
    Why just the micro niche and not an authority site? Well I wanted to start small so I could build a site quickly and then concentrate on getting it ranked. An authority site will take much longer to build up. Dont get me wrong an authority site is something I will do down the track, but as im just starting out, ill start with an MNS.

    UPDATE:
    Still waiting on my site to be finished...just researching more article ideas.
     
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    All the best mate. I am planning to do similar soon. I wish you all the best...
     
  7. zoonosis

    zoonosis Newbie

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    Its been a few days since my last post so time for an update.

    Still waiting for my site to be finished, its taking forever, I wont be using these guys again thats for sure. For what they are offering it should have been done last week. They are obviously over subscribed.

    On a positive note, my pintrest experiment is going quite well. Started last week with basically nothing, now I have 120 ish pins, and 2 followers. Not bad considering im doing it manually.

    Ill update again when the site is done.
     
  8. DiscoDax

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    Keep it up bro. You're journey hasn't really started yet so use that time to learn about WP and other things. I'd rather pay for keywords and setup a site myself anyway but I guess that's just me. It's cheaper as well (keyword: $6 + 5 articles: $25 = $31) I just saved you $9 ;) Oh yeah and setting up a site shouldn't take longer than 3 hours once you know how to.
     
  9. zoonosis

    zoonosis Newbie

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    Yep well I put it down to noob mistake. Ill definitely just buy the keywords straight up next time.
    Is five articles all you think ill need? I realise more the better, but that should get some organic traffic, assuming the articles are good quality that is.
     
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    zoonosis Newbie

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    Spoke too soon, the website just finished. Its a bit late here in Oz so ill start fresh tomorrow going over the articles checking for grammar problems and then deciding what extra articles to add.
     
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    Well, you say MNS in your thread title. Micro Niche Sites generally contain about 5 - 10 articles. Without any linkbuilding/keyword ranking you won't get much traffic. Just a lucky visitor every now and then but don't count on a steady traffic flow.
    And yes more content is better. I suggest you built a niche site with 30 - 45 articles, like I'm doing right now. Google hates thin content and niche sites can easily be turned into massive authority sites if they show potential.
     
  12. zoonosis

    zoonosis Newbie

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    So today I wrote my first article its around 350 words. The site has a total of 3 now, so needs lots more. The existing 2 I got with the site aren't great and will need a bit of polish, quite obvious that a foreigner has written it. The content is good but sentence structure and word flow is lacking a bit.

    I applied to get an adsense account, got an email yesterday from google saying that they couldnt approve my account because they couldnt access the site. Don't know why, the address i gave works just fine, so I just re-submitted it again. Fingers crossed.

    One tip for all my followers I got in the seo guide with my site is to submit my site to the IMtalk dot org's website submitter.

    "This tool creates pages about your website/blog on everyone of these websites, resulting in about 1,800+ different pages in some cases with backlinks pointing back to your website. Yes some of those backlinks are no-follow and some of them are do-follow, but bottom line is that these are well established websites regularly crawled by Google and other SE, so your pages and backlinks/URLs on those websites will be found and your website/blog will get backlinks/mentions and will be visited and indexed more frequently by Googlebot and many other search engine bots like Yahoo, Bing, Baidu, etc., which is the main purpose of this tool, backlinks are just nice bonus."

    So I did that, and my site was added to around 1000 sites. It could have been more but I stopped watching it after a while. It wont drive much traffic, if any, but it will make sure that my site is constantly being scraped by spiders. If you haven't done that to your sites yet, give it a go. They seem to have other tools on their site but im yet to investigate them.

    As far as traffic goes, none yet, but thats to be expected ive done zero seo.
     
  13. zoonosis

    zoonosis Newbie

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    Been a few days, wasn't super active with the website over the weekend but I have done a bit today. Written another article and have gone back over the old articles and fixed up the grammar problems. I have 3 posts and 7 pages now, 2 pages being a post really so thats 5 posts.

    Adsense is approved and I have ads showing on the website now, just no traffic to click them. Im not happy with the template, besides its general uglyness its not mobile friendly so im going to try and find a good free responsive adsense theme. Once that's done, ill start a bit of seo....maybe social bookmarking to get some traffic.
     
  14. zoonosis

    zoonosis Newbie

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    Still here, still plugging along. Ive written a few more articles but have yet to start back linking to rank this site.
    I was planning on giving GSA search engine ranker a go, seems to be the goods.
    I havent got 10 articles yet but nearly there, is it ok to start backlinking now?
    Is GSA worth the cash?
     
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    zoonosis Newbie

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    Exciting news.
    Just checked my SERP via www dot serpchecker dot com and my site is hovering between 99 and 110 in google for my main keyword
    No backlinking as yet and already on page 10....at least I think it would be page 10 on google, can't seem to find it though.
    Analytics tells me ive been getting some random traffic from a weird looking forum and iloveitaly dot com. Not sure how that happened but ill take it.
    No ad clicks as yet.

    So at least we have a baseline to start will, im roughly rank 100, need to get 10 or below....I want page 1.
     
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    I dont know about GSA or backlinking but great to see you're making progress!
    If you have less than 15 articles and no backlinking/advertising, you can't really expect much traffic
     
  17. zoonosis

    zoonosis Newbie

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    More good news, im on the second page of bing.
    Not google but yay anyway, second page is pretty good.
    No traffic though, so im not earning any money yet as no one has clicked on my ads.
    The site itself still needs more articles but we are moving forward.

    Ive been commenting on random blogs here and there and added some pins to pintrest. Analytics says no traffic from them, just these weird random blogs ive never been too, so not sure how they got there.
    So with no backlinking im on page 2 of bing for 1 keyword. I probably need to adjust my other articles to rank for other keywords as they are a bit sloppy, need more keyword density.
     
  18. zoonosis

    zoonosis Newbie

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    Been a bit quiet over the holiday period and havent done anything, but thought id post. My Bing ranking is still holding strong, on some keywords ive even gone up 5 places. Google I dont rank in the top 100.
    No ad clicks yet, still need to get traffic.
     
  19. zoonosis

    zoonosis Newbie

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    Well what can I say....I tried...I really tried. I just can't seem to rank this website. Im a complete noob at this and im starting to get disheartened. To break up the dissapointment ive started an Instagram page which is actually growing quite well, so im going to keep on that for now. Im sure someone who actually knows what they are doing, has the right tools, and actually likes blogging will have a win but im just not.

    If anyone wants to buy this website from me to add to their micro niche PBN just PM me and we can chat.
    Youll get the EMD domain, wordpress install, plugins, theme and 7 articles.
     
  20. Kav13

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    It's too early.
    Sites are a labor of love, not a "get rich quick".
    Next time try to do a site about a subject you really love, instead of thinking about keywords. Think about keywords later.