️️ [Journey] Conquering the Digital World with My AI Website, So I Can Do Useless stuff Even More! ️️

I like the no earnings criteria of the thread. If you wait to see earnings from another person before starting your own journey then it's bound to fail. So kudos to you, any BHW member should know that with traffic , monetization becomes a walk in the park
 
Ideally I should be, it would be a shame I spend so much of my life on SEO but cant get results quickly lol.

This is not to say im better than anyone but I do have to prove myself often.

So, I more or less mentioned the order im letting my posts programmatically be made (I cant just drop them all at the same time).

Only thing I can really say, if you are interested in forcing the search engine to like particular posts, id go look for and read stuff from

Koray Tuğberk GÜBÜR (not an endorsement of everything he teaches, also, he rambles a LOT, kinda like me, so playing videos on double speed

can be your friend), because honestly if you can understand even 50% of some of the stuff he says I feel you are better off.

My posts are being programmatically made with every single seo advantage I think I can get.

This is why google also allows me to get so much impressions even though I just started:

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If you can look into and understand how google actually sees your content then you can have more edge.

While we cant know for sure what is "quality" to google, we have many bits and peices to put together.

Everything from page speed, to who we link to, to what anchors we send out, to EEAT stuff,

and with great reason why I am using so much parasite SEO. In a short time frame, google now

has a better understanding of my site (it uses a name that doesnt exist before I made it, since I normally use branded names

with no specific meaning) because it has so much resources from sites that are not my own.

idr if you were around when I was first growing my financial site in my old journey, but, when you do everything

as right as you possibly can, even if half of it is speculation.

Picture from old journey site growth (financial topics, often called "site 2"):

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did not even take a proper 2 months before it was at 200 clicks a day. It had great average postion.

Obviously aged domain things help, however this journey is being done on a fully fresh domain.

I potentially dont know if im just going to have it crash and burn like ive seen happen to some others sites.

If you want to go dig around stuff I said in the past you can go back to the journey, I dont particularly

want to retype all the things I said before, but do keep my strategy for that journey is not fully the same as this one, as im not

mass publishing, and im trying to put every post out perfect from the start.

https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/m...0-000-pageviews.1487006/page-18#post-16358296



People always say that if you dont take your own "easy wins" then someone else will gladly take it from you.

I dont think anyone ever lost sleep at night knowing my site (their competitor) lost all snippets.

So I can be allowed to be a little greedy and try to take them back with my new found knowledge after 3 tests lol.

I hope it works as planned however, ive been very busy so I cant baby sit it, and since the site

is translated, doing a gradual move likely going to result in downtimes as I get unlucky with site moves.
I understand exactly what you're saying. For the amount of articles you're posting that must be a tedious, and time consuming process.
 
Thanks alot for the post.
I just want to say i really appreciate how you answer some questions in depth. Most people dont do that.

It really adds alot of value to the community, I just started my own AI blog (like many others recently) and theres still lots to learn, but your posts help alot in getting to know things better.
Thanks for the appreciation. Wish you luck, its comments like these that help me keep going (at least on the forum).

I was always a lurker on bhw before this year so it feels good to be giving a little information back

as it was journey and posts here that helped give me the motivation to start off years ago.
I like the no earnings criteria of the thread. If you wait to see earnings from another person before starting your own journey then it's bound to fail. So kudos to you, any BHW member should know that with traffic , monetization becomes a walk in the park
I totally agree with that.
Only sad thing is that you can fake traffic with bots, so it doesnt fully mean a no earnings thread can be trusted.

Earnings are not impossible to fake but usually someone who uses the platforms that people are giving

screenshots from can notice when information is being faked (wrong fonts, etc etc)

I at least dont sell a single thing to nobody here in any shape or form, so people can at least trust that

im not using a journey to promote myself for clients.

But as you said, BHM member should know traffic = monetization

so my hope is people can just estimate the potential earnings themself and find inspiration beyond just looking

at jealousy inducing numbers.

I understand exactly what you're saying. For the amount of articles you're posting that must be a tedious, and time consuming process.

Not really, for this new site since im going slow, it has actually been rather easy at times since only a few are put out at a time as im trying to not have the domain crash and burn.

The parasites are the things that take up most time as it isnt mostly programatic like the website.

Thankfully gpt is a glorified spinner so it is not like I need to work hard to put content up on other domains as they are quick to write for.


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Update:

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(more data from 12th is filled in)

3 new sign ups, (actually 5 but I have reason to believe 2 are bots, people do scrap the web and have accounts auto created on platforms for all sorts of reasons, and even for selling aged accounts)

I did not expect to see potential bot sign ups so early, I am not fully familiar with how to hard filter these so ill need to do some digging for solutions on my own.


Pinterest: potential shadow ban? impressions have been dropping every single day since the start even though ive kept everything consistent.

Or it is just random and im over reacting (the account is new so take early movements with a grain of salt).

Parasites:

More are up, none particularly interesting.

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In other news, pages on my main site randomly

started dropping out of the top 100 today aswell.

Nothing much I can do besides watch and see but

these are some weird times. One of my side sites

jumped 30 % even though the tools dont show anything particularly

special about the recent days.

I am aware 2 updates are going on at the same time.
 
Thanks for the appreciation. Wish you luck, its comments like these that help me keep going (at least on the forum).

I was always a lurker on bhw before this year so it feels good to be giving a little information back

as it was journey and posts here that helped give me the motivation to start off years ago.

I totally agree with that.
Only sad thing is that you can fake traffic with bots, so it doesnt fully mean a no earnings thread can be trusted.

Earnings are not impossible to fake but usually someone who uses the platforms that people are giving

screenshots from can notice when information is being faked (wrong fonts, etc etc)

I at least dont sell a single thing to nobody here in any shape or form, so people can at least trust that

im not using a journey to promote myself for clients.

But as you said, BHM member should know traffic = monetization

so my hope is people can just estimate the potential earnings themself and find inspiration beyond just looking

at jealousy inducing numbers.



Not really, for this new site since im going slow, it has actually been rather easy at times since only a few are put out at a time as im trying to not have the domain crash and burn.

The parasites are the things that take up most time as it isnt mostly programatic like the website.

Thankfully gpt is a glorified spinner so it is not like I need to work hard to put content up on other domains as they are quick to write for.


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Update:

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(more data from 12th is filled in)

3 new sign ups, (actually 5 but I have reason to believe 2 are bots, people do scrap the web and have accounts auto created on platforms for all sorts of reasons, and even for selling aged accounts)

I did not expect to see potential bot sign ups so early, I am not fully familiar with how to hard filter these so ill need to do some digging for solutions on my own.


Pinterest: potential shadow ban? impressions have been dropping every single day since the start even though ive kept everything consistent.

Or it is just random and im over reacting (the account is new so take early movements with a grain of salt).

Parasites:

More are up, none particularly interesting.

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In other news, pages on my main site randomly

started dropping out of the top 100 today aswell.

Nothing much I can do besides watch and see but

these are some weird times. One of my side sites

jumped 30 % even though the tools dont show anything particularly

special about the recent days.

I am aware 2 updates are going on at the same time.
Maybe it is new update or something. I just have been having absolutely 0 success from search. I think the best way to go about it is to generate capital from somewhere else, and buy a site that is already established.
 
Maybe it is new update or something. I just have been having absolutely 0 success from search. I think the best way to go about it is to generate capital from somewhere else, and buy a site that is already established.
I agree that is the "BEST" way for quick growth

However when I was poor and first got into all this stuff, I started on a fresh site with only hopes and dreams.

So I think this is still the best thing for people with no real capital to start, it will take months for them to

rank but it compounds.

This current site im doing has me feeling nostalgic because it was completely blank, not even a link.

With the rate it is growing right now, assuming I dont get some hard crash to 0 soon, then

I can probably say I still think this is one of the best things someone with no starting capital

can get into.

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As for why you are getting 0 success from search, I dont know enough to make a statement but

id suggest having a proper seo look at it because they might see something you dont.

I am not here to do things like that for free or paid, but im just putting it out there.

I remember one client I had kept telling me they were doing everything perfect, then when I saw their

pages, they had written all posts in full H2, and downsized the H2 to look like paragraph text.

Other people have the "discourage search engines" button selected on wordpress.

can be so much reasons a site might not be taking off.

However probably the #1 reason I personally find is that the site owners always start trying to

rank for topics that they clearly cant rank without backlinks.

Then if none of your posts can even have a chance at ranking, you will just never rank.

I had one dude hire me a while back, wanted to outrank nerd wallet for credit card stuff ......

on a 7 month old site, all because he saw some podcast where someone talked about

how much they were making on credit card referals.

Now obviously clients dont want to hear "you are crazy", and many cant even understand why

"best cash back credit cards" is a pipe dream with a weak site.

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Hardest part for me when dealing with clients in the start is always trying to get them to

understand that if they actually want to make money, they need to punch in their

weight class. The next issue is that (especially since im not cheap) they need to hold out

enough time to actually see the fruit of the work.

God forbid a google algo happens the first month you take them on, and they think you

somehow managed to kill their site in a months time.

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anyways, tldr, if you already have been working on the thing for months to a year with no upward growth,

it is probably worth it to get someone to actually look at it if you are serious about running websites

for a living.

You can also try to save up for a site that is already moving, but, if you dont get the fundamentals to

getting it off the ground on a new site then it will be hard to do on a old site.
 
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This is google ana (just looking from the site kit plugin ) for the new site, keep in mind I didnt add it directly from the start.

So why is the traffic larger than Search console? remember im ranking in bing and also

remember I have a lot of parasites and just about every social media. while this breakdown might not last,

currently google traffic does not make up over 50% of the sites traffic.
 
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Just realized this, but im actually getting discover impressions literally with the website fresh out the box. So appearently having discover optimized images from the start does seem to get you on it quick.

Thanks @roydan since your post here is kinda guiding my effort with discover on top of other things im testing.


https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/method-how-to-get-your-site-on-google-discover.1499157/
My only real worry is if my content (since programmatic) would even interest people on discover at all, I can imagine

if the ctr is horrible then I might not make it on it forever. ( 9 impressions aint enough to judge though).

However this for sure is the first website ive "started" that was on discover in the first month going live.

I need to make my reddit efforts stronger.

On another note, maybe google telling us that content quality affects indexing actually isnt a plain out lie.

After my first week, now every single article I publish is indexed super fast it is crazy. Im talking within 20 minutes.

Keep in mind, even on my main website I can never expect something indexed within an hour unless im submitting.

I had set up parasite stuff, youtube, twitter etc to try and help indexing but after week 1 I havent even been needing it

because the posts would index so fast. I feel like this website is at least one website I can be fully proud of

as from the start ive been trying to do my best to have it be "high quality" even with its programmatic nature.

Even though it is always debatable what "quality" means, heck

even google on their own page explaining search ranking basically in the dumbest way

told up quality = backlinks which put white hats back at square one for those who

always think quality is on page stuff they can control.

For quality to have anything to do with backlinks kind of throws out a lot of things as it is

just as "gameable" as all the other things they look at.



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Pinterest:
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no clicks, impressions still growing at least.


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Nothing crazy but growth is growth, starting next week im slightly increase amount published per day.
 
Well yall, im mad at myself for not trying this earlier, but so far, that larger site im doing a 301 for with snippet ban, it has been keeping all its snippets on new domain.

I am upset at myself for not doing this earlier as it is a large jump in traffic. However im not done testing and not 100% confident in ever pushing something like this

on a client, but at least on my more personal sites this might be my way forward in avoiding sitewide snippet bans.

The potential lose in domain power barely matters when you get a snippet and jump to number 1 for the main terms.

If anyone else tries this stuff after seeing me talk about it, please hmu if you want to talk about how it is going or share findings

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Now back to update for this journey site:


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Guys, im not gonna lie, the slow growth of a new domain is fucking painful.

I start wondering why I decided to do this but im hoping that seeing a new domain grow can inspire some of you.

I know most people are bad at picking order to tackle content creating, but that is one of the best ways to guide it off
the ground.

That and parasites are refering and powering it up with whatever little signals they can pass.

Also I have finished another knowledge panel for a persona author.

It went away randomly but it has been back for 3 days now so I feel like I can call it "done".


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so much for posting every day, somehow I forgot the last few days:

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Have not set up some of the other parasites I was hoping to, ig cus google is taking an eye on these things, some of the better parasite seo websites have temporarily suspended guest posts etc.


If you know, you know.

Not really much to say, the site is growing, as expected. It isnt some speed like (10 k visits in month) but at least Im gonna hit 1 k visits between bing and google etc.

good luck on your projects this week.
 
Update to journey site on new domain:


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no new sign ups even though more clicks
Interesting journey, I'm following.
 
Interesting journey, I'm following.
I literally cannot tell any difference you would do beside post consistently. Posting parasite can work, but they are mainly no follow links anyway. Driving social traffic doesn't integrate into GSC results. How are you doing this?
 
I literally cannot tell any difference you would do beside post consistently. Posting parasite can work, but they are mainly no follow links anyway. Driving social traffic doesn't integrate into GSC results. How are you doing this?
Are you asking me or him? dude just said "Interesting journey"

The difference is in the execution.

noting im doing is ever really something I havent told on this forum in some shape or form.


if someone set up 5 singular parasite pages.... you are NOT doing what im doing.

if you ignore parasites, nofollow links, etc, post quality even LSIs that other seos dont beleive in, then you are

NOT doing what im doing.

If you are not aiming for things easy enough to rank at the start, then you are NOT doing what im doing.

If you have not tried perfected EEAT as much as you can on important pages and ensured google understood your

entity, even getting knowledge panels and connecting your authorship across different platforms, then you are NOT
doing what im doing.

GSC doesnt show non google traffic, but google can know things about your site through chrome and other methods,

If you seriously dont see value in nofollow links then I dont know what to tell you, not seeing the value in the

little details is exactly why some people who claim they are doing the same thing as me are NOT doing what im doing.

Thus they cant expect the same results.

I complain about wasting my time a lot, why on earth would I bother with some things like parasites if it wasnt a decent

part of my strategy?

43% of my traffic doesnt come from google as you would see if you minus 514 from 910.

Google has said before :


"When nofollow was introduced, Google would not count any link marked this way as a signal to use within our search algorithms. This has now changed. All the link attributes—sponsored, ugc, and nofollow—are treated as hints about which links to consider or exclude within Search. We'll use these hints—along with other signals—as a way to better understand how to appropriately analyze and use links within our systems.

Why not completely ignore such links, as had been the case with nofollow? Links contain valuable information that can help us improve search, such as how the words within links describe content they point at. Looking at all the links we encounter can also help us better understand unnatural linking patterns. By shifting to a hint model, we no longer lose this important information, while still allowing site owners to indicate that some links shouldn't be given the weight of a first-party endorsement."

https://developers.google.com/search/blog/2019/09/evolving-nofollow-new-ways-to-identify
Now, for you struggling seos out there, turn off your brain for a moment

no really, and think...... if what they said here is true..... then are all nofollow links useless?

And if they are NOT useless then which nofollow links are likely to be good hints........ wikipedia? news sites? social media? pages with traffic? pages with lots of links to them? pages from reputable sites?

If nofollow links can give hints.... then why would the evaluation of them be much different than ******** links which google has spent years trying to better judge ******** links...........

Now I dont want to feel like im spoon feeding

but im just going to leave this on one note.


If to this day..... ******** links can be manipulated......... then what on earth makes people think the hints nofollows can give in some places is not something you can manipulate.

Think of all the best sites on earth that only give nofollows like wikipedia, now imagine a website existing that has links from all the best sites on the planet (but all are nofollow), on pages that get traffic, and also have links.

Now tell me that you honestly think ....... such a site is in anyway equal to some exact copy site that has NO links at all............

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Long story short, I wish you luck and I wish you attention to detail. I dont do anything special that ive never mentioned before (or at least im pretty sure I dont)

In general 99-100% of the time someone tells me they are doing the "same" things as me.... they are just not......

If you are not doing the same things as me, then dont expect the same results.


I never even imagined this was possible before. My friend, you're a truly hardcore player.


haha, thanks, If you try it I wish you luck.



Todays updates:

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So, ive noticed something,

even on my site hit by the HCU, google seems to be treating new pages

"better" than the old pages, while I have no idea if this is short term until

the HCU classifier hits a new page, it does however make me wonder some things.

How would google react to my pages if I "redirect / remove the content "

basically hold it away long enough that google deindexes in, then

add them all back in batches.......... while they would have the same url as in the past

I have to wonder if google deindexing the page resets it in the algos mind like a new page.


If anyone can tell me if this sounds stupid or not, speak up, I dont have a plan like this yet, as it is

anecdotal that google is threating new pages different.
 
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kinda been flat, had indexing problems today, wasnt speed indexing like before, and not even submitting was getting google to crawl.

just gonna boot up parasite pages and go to sleep
 
It seems you kinda bored because of slow result but please keep updating for us :D
haha, sure

I try to remember. Hopefully ill be less bored when it is big enough to start having some of those "tennis matches".



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Update: Data for most recent day not finished but it is already higher than the last


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Last 2 days have been in the 70s for clicks from google.


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Ive crossed 1000 visitors total for the month in first month of operation.

most recent days have had drop in bing traffic but raise in google.


Also, pages from before that were not indexing, have been indexed now, only thing done was parasites and over night sleep.
 
Google Discover:

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Organic GSC

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no real comments, im just repeating things I already said im doing

havent finished the other knowledge panel cus got lazy

randomly out of the blue some of the traffic gains on my main site form the HCU fell down a little.

behind the scenes I got an opportunity for a backlink from a local newspaper, had a table at a charity event so

it was getting small time coverage. However, I fucked up and didnt make it extremely clear where to link

and they linked to my fucking main website because it shows up first when you google my name.

Reached out to them and have not heard back besides a generic (we will speak with our editorial team)

Either way I got a backlink I guess, but I wasnt expecting the team to google my name instead of my site when looking

for what to link to. That was not at all my real reason for us being at the event so it is all fine

but the annoyance made me want to vent a little here.

I cant redirect the link because it is a home page link.
 
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