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[Journey] Blogging based on Income School (Project 24) Philosophy

Discussion in 'My Journey Discussions' started by Big Ron, Jun 12, 2019.

  1. ibnu aqil imron

    ibnu aqil imron Junior Member

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    the main thing that i learn from them is how to analyze competition, and to give the most helpful answer to user.

    an also did shit load of website audit that i learn from BHW, it quite help my website
     
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  2. Unreliable Witness

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    You have to remember that Google is based on the model of academic citations. In the web-based world, citations equate to links.

    From what I've seen, Income School preaches that if you build it they'll come. Or that if you create good content, it'll earn links and get traffic. I think that is pretty good advice (certainly, high quality content is better than low quality content), except it doesn't take into account that the world is commercial and that despite all intentions from Google to have a level playing field, money makes the world go round. You might have the best content ever, but if you don't have any links to it, your competitor's content that has 10 outreached guest posts linking to it is likely to rank higher, get more traffic and as a result, acquire more organic links.

    That's a bit of a divergent rant - sorry. But what I wanted to say in response to your post is that E-A-T is based on factors that can be quantified. Google is an algorithm. Expertise, authority and trust are all subjective. To make the subjective into the objective requires weighting criteria that can be clearly measured. Google is based on links. Its not looking at the qualifications of the writer in the bio to a blog post because it doesn't know whether a degree in astrophysics actually means that the writer is qualified to write about particle physics. Its looking at whether sites it already trusts on that subject (i.e. that are about the same thing and that themselves are linked to) cite (link to) your webpage.

    To overcome E-A-T issues, you don't need to change your author bio or add an about us page. You need to acquire links from topically relevant and preferably highly cited (linked to) websites.

    And the problem then with the Income School approach is that if you're not actively seeking links, the rate at which your site acquires them is going to be much less than the rate at which someone who paying for outreach is acquiring them. Your website will be relegated in the SERPs, which means less eyeballs on your page, which means fewer organic links.

    The utopia of just being able to focus on high quality content is a wonderful ideal, buts its fantasy land. To be successful, you either need to be operating in an area with no competition, or you need to be greasing the machine with large wads of dollars faster than your competitors are doing it.
     
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  3. johnnyboi

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    yes the thing about income school is its a nice source of income as unlike other courses which you pay 1 time the income school membership only last a year so they can keep milking members constantly
     
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    and hence they need new marketing gimics to keep their students continuing to pay.
     
  5. dotslash

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    I think their perspective was more that although links will help it's more effective to just focus on the content. It's something I've found over the last year or so, yes links boost your site but the wrong ones cause the opposite effect. I've stopped buying links and my sites are still growing - not as quick as with links but then again they don't suffer huge drops either !! It is surprising how any site can get some organic links without trying but obviously you need some visibility to get started.
     
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    thank you bro this is very helpful
     
  7. Reini1

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    hi buddy just reading your journey, nice share
    you can use this free tool for rank tracking

    https://neilpatel.com/

    here are your actual rankings, good luck wit this journey!
     

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  8. Unreliable Witness

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    I disagree with the view that its more effective just to focus on content - for content to rank without links, there needs to be very low competition. What gets my back up isn't so much the view - everyone is entitled to their opinion - but rather that they are selling courses based on it, even when its clear that over time their methodology isn't particularly effective. Their customers are people who really don't know much about SEO and really need more help. Just watching some of the video above shows that. Many people come to this game thinking that having a successful blog is simply about choosing a topic you love and writing X thousand words. It isn't. Its about many other things as well.

    If you look through the results for just about any search query, you'll find that mediocre content with some links to it usually ranks better than fantastic content with no links. Ranking isn't just about doing one thing well. Its about doing one thing well and other things reasonably well.

    Buying links doesn't necessarily equate to your website tanking in the SERPs. For example, someone else might have written better content than you, pushing you down (rather than being relegated as a result of something you've done). Its not knowing which ones to buy and how to buy that is likely to cause problems. The myth that some penalty lies around the corner if you pay anyone to acquire links rather than doing the work yourself is exactly the myth Google wants to perpetuate.

    I'm of the opinion that Google's strategy regarding link buying is not to stamp it out through penalties, but to be able to identify it and discount it. If you're buying links on topically relevant pages (on topically relevant websites), without over-optimising your anchor text you won't have any issues every time a major update comes round.

    But acquiring good quality links doesn't come cheap. But then gurus don't want to tell their clients that its not as easy as they make it sound, and clients prefer to be sold the lie that success lies just around the corner - once they've written 1,000,000 words.

    Sorry @Big Ron. I don't mean to hijack your journey, and I wish you all the best with it. Its turned into a discussion on the merits of the Income School methodology. I'll not comment any more.
     
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  9. Reini1

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    hi Ron i just checked the speed of your website, desktop 92 is good but mobile is really poor at 34, you can easy rank better and gain higher ranks by just improving loading speed, i have an free solution for you, where hosting won‘t cost you a penny, and the speed is desktop at 99 and mobile reaches 92, i am willing to share with you my secret sauce but not with the community, i also ask you not to share that with the public, i am afraid this will be abuse by this forum. the only negatve part here is that you will need to post all your posts manually again, pm me if you are interested
     

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    ;)
    you nailed it, it is the relevance of the text, if they keyord is banana, and the story is about apples, the relevance is going to 0. i belive the recent updates will devaluate links and valuate more the relevancy of the text, so miles/kilometers of text do not need to be writen, like 10 000 words for an crappy usb cabel...
    i use this free tool to stay on topic it is ai based,

    https://inkforall.com/

    i hope this helps you guys ;)
     
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    interesting point! indeed
     
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    unfortunately not see yourself
     

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    I bet if you take ads off the site it shoots back up to 99. As soon as I add some ads to my sit4e the speed drops to 30-40 for mobile. Without ads it is 90+.
    I would suspect it is the same issue here.
     
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    How's the income report holding up?

    I've been studying this backward and forward and I definitely have a cheap content source (I am a content provider) to create Project 24 sites monthly (200 posts per site) but here are the sticking points
    - build it and they will come (no backlinks)
    - use only google autocomplete and related searches (no ahrefs / semrush etc or other kw finder tools)
    - pinterest and youtube short videos for 'long term traffic' (while I've found a $1 a minute video provider, even if I produce videos on 33% of the site's content or 67 videos, that's still 67 @ 10 minutes @ 1 per minute $670 for video content)

    I'm looking at a modified version of the above...
    Intensive blogging

    Long EPIC posts - 1 a month but spend 20 days just PIMPING the post ala Brian Dean of backlinko fame
    - based on KEYWORD TOOL based keywords (AHREFS, etc)
    - multiple tweets
    - FB group shares of snippets and picture quotes
    - FB page posts of snippets and varying graphics
    - Short 10 minute youtube video (also promoted via above)
    - Pinterest of at least 20 pics from post
    - Slideshare
    - Forum posts
    - FB comment posts
    - Quora answers

    Did I miss anything?
     
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    i agree with this statement,
    i know that the incomeschool strategy is quite good, but without link the rank may decrease..

    I personally had a website that ever rank #1 on a certain keyword, because i deliver match answer to user intent, but now it decrease to rank #7, overank with post that is not answer the querry, just because they get link velocity and i dont...

    content is the KING, But without link, content is King without Queen
     
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    I am noticing a trend with these latest updates by google. Sites which are jumping up in the ranks are those that are producing at least 6K+ words of content per month every month. Those that have produced content in the past and have stopped are losing rank quickly. It seems recency of updates and number of words published in the last month are becoming more important.
     
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    Interesting observation.... I can see this making sense for some niches but how about "evergreen" niches where key niche info rarely changes?
     
  18. ibnu aqil imron

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    do you have any refference? please give some link of case study so i can read it
     
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    I don't know what happened but BHW has failed to notify me that there has been activity on this thread for since page 60. We are now on page 66. So I have some catching up to do on the readings.
     
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    That's an interesting idea. I hadn't thought of that. Make a video about the latest Tesla toy in order to draw people who want one of those. Then I’ll see that these guys are having fun because of what they do for a living. Then they sell him the shovels.