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[Journal] Creating my own network of sites for banking $100/day

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by itos84, Nov 2, 2011.

  1. itos84

    itos84 Power Member

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    Why I said network? Because all the sites will be interlinked, and all will be part of a network site (with it´s own logo). A lot of people here say don´t link your sites between each other. But I don´t think that would be bad since my sites will do nothing weird or spammy.

    What this is not:
    * This is not a method.
    * This is not for making fast easy money.
    * Spammy made for adsense sites.

    What I want to achieve:
    * A long term income of money.
    * Be financial independent.
    * A network that contributes useful content for their readers.

    Monetize:
    * Adsense
    * Amazon
    * Clickbank (just for some niches)

    Goals:
    * $0.01 per day
    * $1 per day
    * $5 per day
    * $15 per day
    * $25 per day
    * $50 per day
    * $75 per day
    * $100 per day
    * When I reach $100 per day I will evaluate all my sites and set new goals.

    I will start with one site in a certain niche. This will not be micro niche sites but also they will not be big niches sites.

    For example:
    * Large niche site: clothing.com
    * Medium niche site: tshirts.com -> I will focus on this type of sites.
    * Micro niche site: tshirtsfordogs.com

    Each of this sites will use the same theme, the theme will be custom made and only will change colors between each site. Each site must have it´s own logo. All the sites will be linked together in the footer (an image logo of each site and linked to the url).

    I have some money saved from other jobs to invest in this. I will design (only in Photoshop) the theme and then outsource the programming and web development in Wordpress. I will also outsource the content creation, while some of the content I will try to make myself. As for backlinks, I don´t have a backlink strategy, I don´t want spammy backlinks from profiles or comments with a thousands outbound links pages. So I will focuse only on the content first (thanks to user "BassTrackerBoats" for advice). So I will have to look for some services here in BHW to outsource all this.

    Each site will have articles from ranging from 100-500 words daily. It would be weird to only have 500 words posts, I want them to be naturally and not only focus on content written from keywords. (of course I will optimize the articles for keywords and onpage seo). I will make 1 post daily for each site. Then if I have more resources I will increment this to have at least 5.000 words on the site daily (that could be around 10-15 posts daily).

    The sites will have a twitter, facebook account so readers can subscribe.

    So what do you think. It would be better to focus on medium niche sites or make larger bigger sites? Right now I will start with one site. I also have one site done about videogames in spanish that I will incorporate to the network, but all the sites that I´m making I will do them on english.
     
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  2. jascoken

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    The main reason to be careful of when interlinking sites is the big G...

    First, you've created a clear thumbprint of ownership across all sites and if Google doesn't like something from an AdSense perspective then that could affect all your other sites.

    Second, connecting a bunch of sites on the same server/IP could look like a content/link farm; and an attempt to 'game' your rankings (in Google's eyes.)

    If you're looking to build a secure financial future, then take it from me and host via multi Class IP, with as few sites as possible on each IP. NEVER interconnect them in any way. Do NOT register them with Google WebMaster tools. Do not use 1 over-riding logo/brand - that serves no real purpose. Use multiple AdSense accounts over time with separate legal identities. Use the WHOIS opt out or anonymous site protection. etc. etc..

    As a businessman, I constantly ask myself what on earth could Google possibly have a problem with on some of my sites. But they do occasionally. It's a fact of online business. So we have to deal with it.

    Think of it like this: If you were to start a business buying large stores of food, and one could possibly contaminate the other; would you even risk storing them together?

    It's just not worth the risk; no matter how wonderful/original/unique you think your sites will be.

    I own hundreds and hundreds of sites - so I have an idea what I'm talking about. I'd hate for you to put a bunch of work into a network which could backfire through careless connections. I've lost nearly 200 sites over the last 6 years to Google de-indexing (mostly from pretty aggressive SEO testing though - and nearly ALL because of over-linking or 'farm' type scenarios in Google's eyes) - and it happens to all of us at some point.

    Good luck on your new journey my friend. I honestly wish you all the best. But be careful of being naive where Google is concerned...
     
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  3. itos84

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    Wow I didn´t expect such an honest and good response. Thanks for your time. So you say for example to have them on different IP each site (this will not be micro niche small sites).

    But for example look at this network (it´s in spanish) they interlink all their sites: http://ecetia.com/ look below in the footer you can see all the other sites there. And this is the network: http://hipertextual.com/ for all the sites.

    I don´t know why it would be a bad idea to make logos and branding for each site and interlink them like the example I gave you. Of course I´m not planning on making spammy backlinks or made for adsense sites. What do you think of making a network like that. I would not make any weird thing so why Google will deindex my sites?

    The other option would be to make hundreds of sites, like this one: http://www.lincah.com/ maybe using micro niches but will a constant flow of articles of the same micro niche, not link between them and use your advice by using different IPs, adsense accounts, not using Google Webmasters and being extra careful. I´m still in the planning stage so I want to take all the time and make sure I go for the right path. Thanks again for your great comment. So what others think?
     
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    I'm not saying that you can't do these things. It's just that the odds are against you...

    For every one site you show me where this has worked, there will be 99 that haven't.

    If you're one man starting out then I'd spread/control the risk and start with good quality small sites. Build lots and don't spend too much time on each - because believe me, you can never guess in advance which ones are going to blossom/die!

    When you start getting traffic and revenue then start building that site out, according to the return you get.

    I've spoken to SO many would-be online marketers who've put months of work into a couple of great looking sites that have ended up making $5 per month each. Not exactly what dreams are made of...

    Test the market by dipping your toe in. Make sure you've got your keyword/niche/market research right first.

    Have you ever watched the 'Challenge' videos? I recommend them to everyone new to online business - particularly the first ones on keyword/topic research etc. Here is the YT playlist:

    YT.com/watch?v=q-P2ua1Wc_I&feature=bf_prev&list=PL3912BCD568ED6EA6&lf=results_main

    ...replace the YT with http://youtube obviously....

    Good luck!
     
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  5. AutoBlogger

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    1. Do not interlink
    2. Do not use same G analytic account for all the sites.
    and Good luck :)
     
  6. tylerdale80

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    Interlinking new sites is a big no no. As jascoken said, google might take it as you are leveraging on each interconnected sites PR to game the system. New sites don't have the trust factors. Even if you don't build spammy backlinks, what is stopping your competitors from building spammy backlinks to you. Authority sites might survive the sabotage but new sites will not. If will be better if you build up each individual sites up and let them aged and gain authority before linking them up if u must.

    If you looking for long term profits, don't use adsense on all the sites. Just search BHW and other forums, you will find that once google find a problem, they will bring the whole network of adsense sites down in ranking. Even if you feel you had don't nothing wrong, google might think otherwise.

    I like your idea of adding social interaction in your site. This will certainly make your site look better in google eyes than those MFA or affilate doorway site.
     
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    1.Create some web 2.0 sites in linkwheel
    2.Create Some videos and upload to youtube
    3.Search Good auto approved sites and do commenting
    4. Create squidoo lens,blogspot,wordpress
    5. Social bookmarking
    6 .After 15 days when everything is index buy some xrumer profile backlinks and just do blasting to the above sites.
    7. Index all your profiles backlinks.
     
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  8. Djingel

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    1.Create some web 2.0 sites in linkwheel -> nope
    2.Create Some videos and upload to youtube -> nope
    3.Search Good auto approved sites and do commenting -> could be if done right
    4. Create squidoo lens,blogspot,wordpress -> could be if done right
    5. Social bookmarking -> nope
    6 .After 15 days when everything is index buy some xrumer profile backlinks and just do blasting to the above sites. -> could be if done right
    7. Index all your profiles backlinks. -> could be if done right
     
  9. itos84

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    Cool Thanks for the advice, I hope Google doesn´t take the sites down. It shouldn´t take them down. At least I hope so.

    Yes, I will add some twitter and facebook accounts and also try to monitor those to answer to the readers. That way also a community is build. But I´m starting to think that not on every site that would work.

    I will not make spammy links on my site. This is definitely a no no for me. I want long term and if someone in Google does a manual review and see 15.000 spammy comments links on a web 2.0 squidoo lens linking to my site, they could deindex me.
     
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    Thanks everyone for the comments and suggestions I appreciate it.

    I decided to start with 15 Micro Niche Sites. The creation, keyword research and design of the sites will be outsourced. This micro niche sites will be EMD and have at least 1500+ month global exact searches. They will also have 50 high PR backlinks to each micro niche site. The sites will be delivered with 2 articles, but I want to put more articles to each site, at least 10 for each site. So I will have to buy 15x3=45 additional articles (outsourced too). Then I will manually insert the articles in the sites.

    So I will have 15 micro niche sites with 10 articles each.

    $229 on the creation of the 15 Micro Niche Sites
    $115.05 in 15 .com .net or .org domains
    $45 in articles. $1 each article
    Total investment: $389

    My goal is to earn (minimum) $0.45 from each site daily, so in a month I earn (minimum) $200 for all the 15 sites.

    This is my start in my network. After this I will aim for a site in a niche with around 50 articles and constant blog posts daily, this will be a niche site instead of a micro niche.

    And as adviced here I will not interlink the sites at all.
     
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    One of my blogs got Page Rank 2! Well, it´s good to see that the page rank increases I will try to increase it more, make more content and give the users more options to use and more things to do. That is a videogame blog that I have in spanish.

    Ok so a small update for the operation "Rise of my empire". I bought 15 Micro Niche Sites and awaiting the keywords so I can buy the domains. I am planning on making constant content on this sites, also I am finishing some 3d animation job and when I am done I will start my first Gigantic Niche Site (yes I want to called them like that!). I will post more updates soon.
     
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    Hey where did you purchase 15 sites for 230 dollars ? Seems cheap if you ask me ...
     
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    This is interesting. Keep us updated!
     
  14. itos84

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    From this thread. I´m trusting the seller that he will make a great job! There has been a slight delay with the keywords, I´m still waiting for them to arrive so I can buy the domains ASAP

    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...cheap-rates-quality-professional-service.html

    But the lower price was because I got an early review copy.

    When he deliver the sites I will not stop there, I will make articles everyday for each site, so Google keeps coming back and more content is indexed.
     
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    What you should do is reverse engineer them, do your own keyword research, and make 15 more sites. :)
     
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    I had a lot of work to do (my main job is 3d animations) so I couldn´t work in the sites. But I´m more relaxed now so I will continue the project. My provider of my 20 Micro Niche Sites already gave me the keywords and I bought the domains. I have to wait for him to deliver the sites. But I will customize those sites and outsource more content. Since the recent Google algorithm update that ranks better sites with frequent updated content.

    I just have I site currently that makes an amazing $0.01 a day. Yeah it´s lame but it´s a start :D Will give more updates soon.
     
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    My first goal $0.01 is already achieved!...

    I know it´s lame but it´s a start. I´m still waiting for my 20 micro niche sites to be finished, there have been a delay on the order, hope my provider can deliver the sites this week. I am sure that when the sites are finished, my daily earnings will increase.

    Since the outsourcing of the sites have been delayed, I´m making one site myself. I just bought the domain for my first Gigantic Niche Site for $1. You can use coupon blackone and pay with credit card. My domain is keyword+otherword for other word you could use shop,new,news,site, depending on the type of site you are making. My keyword is only one word a broad keyword since I´m aiming to make a niche sites with content updated daily targeting many other keywords around the niche. I will have on the site an image gallery in the posts, for the products, a top rated, best selling, featured top lists, new realeases list pages for the products. And for each product it will have it´s own page. Also the images from the image gallery will have it´s own page, this is to have more indexed pages and to have more pageviews in the site. As for the posts, I will have 10 posts / 500 words each in the first month. Another 10 posts for the second month. At the beginning of the third month I will start making 1 post per day / 100-500 words each, so 30 posts total in the month. At the end of the third month I will have 50 posts in the Gigantic Niche Site. Then from the fourth month and on I will add 10 posts daily / 100-500 words each. So in a year I will have at least 2750 posts. (sometimes a post could be a product with it´s description, so there will be posts that are easy to make). This will be a lot of content and hopefully considered an authority site on the niche.

    Right now I will look for providers that can write content, product reviews. When I have one site running I will start another Gigantic Niche Site with the same formula and backlinking strategy.

    Backlinking Strategy:
    Homepage
    • Blog Comments
    • Profile Links
    • Article Submissions
    • Social Bookmarks
    • Web 2.0 Blog Posts
    • Private Blog Network
      This is the minimum I will make, and I will add more with time. I will do some of this on my own and also outsource services here in BHW. There are many services that combine this techniques and I will buy many kind of services so I have a variety of backlinks. This type of links will be manually (not automated) done and with high PR not blasting the site with low quality links.

    Inner Pages
    A mix between blasts of Social Bookmarks, Article Submissions, Blog Comments, profile links, this type of links could be done blasting with automated software.

    Tools that I have:
    • Scrapebox
    • Bookmarking Demon

    I am considering getting Article Marketing Robot for article blasting the web 2.0 properties, what do you think? Also I don´t know how much this kind of Gigantic Niche Sites I´m making could give me daily, do you have any ideas.
     
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    great journal. waiting for updates about your mns empire!
     
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    An empire is not built in a day, but that´s the goal! Thanks!
     
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    good luck with that