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John Chow Explains Why Asians Are Good At Math

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    Once again our favorite internet marketer / food critic shows why he's the best at what he does. As you read, pay attention to his grammar -- he's been in Canada for 4 decades and he still can't get his syntaxes right.

    Check out the responses he got after he posted this... :biggthump

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    Why Asians Are Good At Math
    written by John Chow on Jan 3, 2010
    http://www.johnchow.com/why-asians-are-good-at-math/


    With the end of 2009 and the start of 2010, I am once again reminded how illogical and arbitrary English math is. Why do we say 2009 as two thousand nine but 2010 as twenty ten? I?m sure you?ve all hear the saying Asians are good at math. You want to know why?

    It?s because in Asia, math is logical and doesn?t have any stupid arbitrary rules.

    Learning To Count ? It?s Ten One, Not Eleven

    The English method of counting is convoluted and the main reason why youths in Asia can count to 100 far sooner than youths in America. The normal rule for counting above ten is to say the tens first and then the ones. Like 21 is twenty one and 99 is ninety nine.

    However, this naming scheme doesn?t apply for 11 to 19 and as a result, students learning to count have to remember a different set of rules and different names for those numbers instead of logically putting ten and one together. In Asia, 11 is call ten one, 12 is ten two, 13 is ten three, etc.

    Once an Asian student learns to count from one to ten in Chinese, he can say any number up to 99 without learning any new rules or names. While an American student has to remember that 20 is call twenty, an Asian student will call it two ten.

    While an American student has to remember that 60 is call sixty and 70 is call seventy but 50 is call fifty, an Asian student will simply say six ten, seven ten and five ten. There are no special names or change of rules for any numbers.

    All an Asian student has to know is one to ten and he can say any number from one to 99. Once he learn 100, he can say any number from 100 to 999.

    Reading of a number in Chinese is done by saying how many tens, hundreds, thousands, etc. there are in the number. For example, 3,521 is call three thousand five hundred two ten one. It?s a lot simpler system and we all know the simpler you make something, the easier it is to learn. Sally can already count to 100 in Chinese but she hasn?t gone pass 20 in English.

    It?s Year Two Zero One Zero

    The simple system of naming numbers extends to naming dates. In most Asian countries, you simply say each number to state the date. 2009 is call two zero zero nine. 2010 is call two zero one zero. There?s none of this two thousand nine and twenty ten crap.

    I?m sure there are other reasons besides simpler rules and easier naming schemes for numbers that allows Asians to excel at math. And of course for every stereotype, there will always be people who break it.

    I would be interested to know how other cultures handle their numbers and dates. Hopefully, it?s not as illogical and arbitrary.
     
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    he is a funny little crap. i can't believe that I used to follow his blog about 2 years ago for a few months
     
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    Ditto.. used to follow him but never purchased anything :D .. The guy gives his special personal touch for the article he writes! Even though with those bad grammar usage he makes quite a lot of buzz and this thread is the proof :D
     
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    lol..,,,
    to be specific there is a place called INDIA where the roots of maths are well nourished by ancient vedas or whatever they call them.
    maths was literally born in india ....and there too people use the american system of using 11=eleven 12=twelve...
    i think that does not affect a person learning calculas...!!
    and dont tell me that americans are bad at maths...we too have fucking geniuses...afterall it was where the atomic bomb was created....
    sad...i dont want to get racist but thats what the chow is doing..I think he is an indian !!
     
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    Seems like a chapter from "Outliers" by Malcolm Gladwell.
     
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    Yup! Your are right.
    Though this article is crap as far as Mathematics is concerned.
    Indians use 12=twelve but while saying 2010 we say it "2 thousand ten"

    As far as history of math goes, India has done great contribution in this field. Invention of zero. Quadratic Equations. Algebra. Decimal System.
    There would have been no six figure income if zero wasn't there :D and we would have trouble finding our earning with the fraction system rather then decimal system.
     
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    Math needs passion for numbers; his argument is minor and ludicrous and has nothing to do with failure at grasping how equations work, for instance.

    it makes more sense to say that East Asians tend to be more introvert, conformist and geeky due to social / cultural / aesthetic constraints compared with the Western counterparts, so they learn more indoor activities like informatics, maths, engineering, and this reflects in their countries' technical proficiency and average professionality. Japanese produce engineers and programmers more than actors and soldiers...


    Same is about Eastern European women - they talk easily 3 / 4 languages (eg German, Polish, Russian, English) not because they are geniuses, but because (1) they are women (genetic advantage with languages), and (2) because they HAVE to learn the power languages, to look beyond their messy, ethnically intermixed borders, in order to emerge from the place, to get a rich hubby, a mercenary job, or anyway to get out of there...
     
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    Not so...

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    From: http://inventors.about.com/od/astartinventions/a/atomic_bomb.htm
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    Scientists Who Invented the Atomic Bomb under the Manhattan Project: Robert Oppenheimer, David Bohm, Leo Szilard, Eugene Wigner, Otto Frisch, Rudolf Peierls, Felix Bloch, Niels Bohr, Emilio Segre, James Franck, Enrico Fermi, Klaus Fuchs and Edward Teller. 
    only 2 are american born. Most are German / Hungarian (fleeing from the Nazism)


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    you also imported shitbag nazists outright like Von Braun to develop your own rocketry...

    Just truth, no polemic intended
     
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    Does this mean that Asians lose their math advantage when they come to North America since we don't use their system? I tend to think that being good with math is a natural skill, just like being good at reading and writing.

    It's amazing that Chow can come up with these ideas. If you're good at math then the counting system should not have any influence, since one can always adapt! :)