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I've been scammed by a vendor

Discussion in 'Clickbank' started by Designer1, May 28, 2013.

  1. Designer1

    Designer1 Regular Member

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    one month ago, I was making at least one sale a day with this vendor's product. then, without any traffic change, the sales stopped.
    No sales for three weeks.
    I'm suspicious for nature, so I've created a new hoplink from the marketplace, and... BOOM, three sales in two days.
    Then the sales stopped again for two weeks.
    Now, I've changed the hoplink again, and in three hours I've already made a sale.

    What the hell is happening?
     
  2. peetrike

    peetrike Power Member

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    You`re not the first one. Many people have similar problems with clickbank lately
     
  3. Designer1

    Designer1 Regular Member

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    However, I'm starting to read similar threads, hope there's a solution.

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    so they say that it's not the vendor, but clickbank itself... this makes it a bigger problem, I guess.
    I'm starting to change my hops twice a day and see what happens.
     
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  4. Newbaby

    Newbaby Junior Member

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    tell the Vendor Name ?
     
  5. hotguy640

    hotguy640 Senior Member

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    hey, i am suffering from same problem with CB.
    You can check my thread
     
  6. Designer1

    Designer1 Regular Member

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    I've read it... no good news, I see.
     
  7. Designer1

    Designer1 Regular Member

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    After some reading I don't think it was the vendor to scam me, probably clickbank itself.
     
  8. Beven

    Beven Elite Member

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    If Clickbank did this there would be public outrage and many lawsuits. I would highly doubt that a corporation as huge as clickbank would do something like that, especially when affiliates have ways of checking with a customer if they made the sale or not. Maybe there is some way for the vendor to do this, or maybe you were just unlucky with your traffic, conversion rates aren't always perfect.
     
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  9. Designer1

    Designer1 Regular Member

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    How else can you explain that after two weeks without any sale I made a sale hours after changing the hoplink?
    It happened two times. This cannot be a coincidence.
    Plus, the last weeks I'm the best traffic I've ever had, but no sales.
     
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    cape verde island Registered Member

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    I agree with @Beven.
    I had the same issue but after changing an account and changing back, I found out that there is no issue with clickbank. It is just the bad luck with traffic conversion.
    However, if still in doubt, buy a product yourself, make sure that you are an affiliate and you will know if clickbank is scamming you or is it just a bad luck with traffic.
     
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  11. Beven

    Beven Elite Member

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    Just because I can't explain why this happened, doesn't make your accusation true. I'm simply stating that it's very unlikely that clickbank would do this. Honestly I think it's coincidence
     
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    Beven Elite Member

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    +this. Clickbank could never get away with doing this simply because sometimes customers tell you when they are buying a proudct through your link. They wouldn't get away with this on a mass scale and I highly doubt a multi-million dollar company would take out time just to screw your individual account over.
     
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  13. Waddup

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    The vendor can redirect your hop link to his/her own and generate the sale...

    Share the product you are promoting as this is some fucked up shit, if this is true.

    It would be way to risky for a company such as Clickbank to scrub your sales as any affiliate could have a conversion tracker on the landing page of the vendor. This would be way to easy to find out and expose the shit out of them.


    1: Contact the vendor and ask if you can put a conversion tracker on his thank-you page.
    2: Contact CB and ask if they can see anything wrong with the accounts you created.

    If you are making X sales per day the vendor shouldn't hesitate placing your tracking code on his thank-you page, if he does you will quickly find out whats going on unless he cheats with it.

    Strange stuff.
     
  14. slybear

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    To say it is unlikely to be a coincidence but given the sporadic nature of some conversions it is hard to say "This cannot be ... " If you we talking dozens of conversions a day then you can expect the numbers to be more consistent but not when it is one or two.

     
  15. Furious George

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    I would say with more data, this could be statistically significant. One or two or three sales isn't really enough to cry foul.

    The way to test this, IMO, would be to rotate the links for a 30 day period. (of course, if you truly didn't make sales in that 30 days, it's still hard to say...)

    You'll need to compare that data with google analytics, or figure out some way to see where people are clicking on your site. Actually, google doesn't help here... I've considered using somethig like this -
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     http://www.crazyegg.com/
    If one hop code is getting clicks, and sales, and the other isn't getting sales but it has clicks, you may have something here. But I doubt it.
     
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    Get someone to buy a product (or do yourself)as a simple visitor would do
    I.e.
    clear your cookies, visit from your traffic source to the hop which you think is not working , subscribe to his mailing list etc etc etc .
    then regularly check for a few days what affiliate id you see on the payment page .
    mostly when a vendor shaves , he shaves through the mailing list by putting mails with different aff id links.
     
  17. mancar487

    mancar487 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    agree - if suspicious, buy the product yourself using the 'faulty' hoplink (you can always ask for a refund later). Likely, it's just coincidence.
     
  18. gpacX

    gpacX Newbie

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    Keeping tabs with your affiliate manager can be a good way to prevent this from happening, they are less likely to scam if they know you. Personally I don't get why they would want to steal sales from you, because the net result is that you stop promoting. I can probably understand why CB would do it, but they are so big that there's almost no point. At the same time, it's difficult to make assumptions about what's going on here and even if you spend 30 days rotating links and you get some data that really suggests a problem, what then?

    Statistically proving that you're being scammed or shaved might be satisfying but won't get you your money. Maybe that's why people switch offers frequently instead of sticking around anywhere.
     
  19. Designer1

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    Guys, you must be right, I'm starting to think that it's only a matter of traffic, google, etc.
     
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