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Its easier to rank high in the SE's than it was 4 years ago

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by chocolatemonkey, Jun 1, 2010.

  1. chocolatemonkey

    chocolatemonkey Junior Member

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    At least that's been my experience. I just threw up 2 WP blogs on 2 domains a week or two ago with no intent to rank in the search engines and am now #1 for a term with 4,200,000 results beating out nasdaq.com and #3 for my other site for a term with 5,080,000 results using a .info domain.

    When I first started in late 2005/early 2006 trying to rank a site that I actually was trying to rank, even for a LOCAL term with 180,000 results was like trying to find a needle in a field of hay (this was before scrapebox mind you, which I still don't use)... and now its like its nothing - I didn't even build any links to the sites!

    Have those of you that have been building sites since 2005/2006 experienced this as well?
     
  2. Megalomaniac Midget

    Megalomaniac Midget Power Member Premium Member

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    Dude, i don't know what your smoking, but i want your dealer to call me ASAP.... obviously its some good shit ;)
     
  3. Com_e

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    Wow this sound nice .
     
  4. chocolatemonkey

    chocolatemonkey Junior Member

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    Hasn't been my experience... maybe you're doing a large amount of work on things that don't matter to the SE's anymore? Their algorithms change all the time, so I probably just so happened to do something which they like. I just though it was ironic that 4 years ago I worked my ass off and got no where and now when I'm not even trying to get ranked in the SE's ka bam I'm beating out the Nasdaq website for a phrase with 4 million something results... with no backlinks... wtf

    Sorry but I'm going to have to give this post my wtf award. No idea where you were going with that
     
  5. g111k

    g111k Regular Member

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    Care to share how many searches your magically easy to rank for keyword gets? And how much competition there is in allintitle:"keyword" ?

    One of my sites is ranked #3 for a keyword out of 498,000,000 results... but it only gets like 1000 searches a month... this is no statistic that it's a piece of cake to rank for "mycityname seo" which returns just over 1,000,000 results.
     
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    Ya sure, that happens all the time... of course it only happens when I'm targeting a long tail keyword and have an exact match domain.

    EG you search for "megalomaniac midget" and you own www.megalomaniacmidget.com, you will likely be on the first page, even if it's in the first few days of setting up the site.
     
  7. THUNDERELVI

    THUNDERELVI Elite Member

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    Wait until the next G. update of SERP-s. You'll be dropped down, the best you can do is build backlinks and the other SEO stuff, so you can continue to remain #1!
     
  8. GreyWolf

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    Actually I kind of agree with the OP, but I think it does depend on how competitive the search terms are.

    Every site I build ends up in the top 5 pages for at least one or two of my keywords within a few days of going online. I start getting at least a few visitors from the search engines within a few days. The ones I really work at usually end up on first page for some of the keywords within a week or so, if not sooner. The problem I usually have is making a good landing page that will grab a visitor, and sales pages that will get a higher ctr. My keywords really are well targeted, and the content is really good but I still have a high bounce rate. A lot of it has to do with the actual site design. The seo is really good, but the pages just don't grab real visitors attention. It's easy enough for me to get the se to send me visitors, as well as other traffic sources, but getting the pages to keep the visitors and convert is a different issue. I've been writing my posts about seo, because what I've been writing about really works well for me. Site design for real visitors and writing sales copy that will convert are the topics I'm trying to learn more about now.

    All I ever do for seo is the things I've written about in my posts and threads on here. I never make massive campaigns, my backlinks are just really balanced across the board. I have quite a few social networking and bookmarking profiles that I make backlinks on. Quite a few blogs I post comments on, and other various sites I use for backlinks. I have several of my own sites that I use as link silos, but I've never done massive campaigns for them either. So far it always works for me.

    Something about the way I do my site promotion and backlinks across various types of websites gets me better results with a lot less backlinks than a lot of people get by blasting out massive amounts of spam links. When it's necessary I scale up what I'm doing, but I still maintain the same type of strategy. So far I haven't needed to use any automated scripts, I just use a few different backlinking services to get the results I need for my projects.

    Obviously if there are 100,000's of sites targeting the same thing, they can't all be on the first pages in the SERPs. When that's the case everything does need to be scaled up, but if you can find a good balanced strategy, it doesn't need to be scaled as much as most people are doing. Just a little more than the next guy. ;)
     
  9. GreyWolf

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    ?????

    SERPs are about how your site is indexed and is updated fairly continuously.

    I think you may be thinking of PR updates which is a different thing entirely.
     
  10. zebrahat

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    I think there are more shortcuts and tools available now than 4-5 years ago to at least attain, if not maintain a high SE ranking. Was social media around 5 years ago, to push page views without SEO? Autoblogging, to get new unique content to your blog whether you worked on it actively or not? Did most sharp people even comprehend the potential of Google Trends, Yahoo Answers, a WP blog combined with SEO and auto submit plugins, etc.? And fully BH tools like scrapebox, SE Nuke, Xrumer etc. were not around or nearly as popular.