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It's been 2 years and I still haven't 'made it'.

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by stharthjw6j, Jun 30, 2014.

  1. stharthjw6j

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    I don't normally put my drama out there but dang some days it's getting harder and harder to keep my chin up, in 2 years I've made probably about 80 bucks. I think I'm a fairly smart guy with a Master's degree but for some reason IM success eludes me. I work on it for hours every day and have spent upwards of $10k between softwares, promotional efforts, guru programs (yeah I know lol), but it seems that there are always gaping holes in the training they don't mention. I'd love to get my first 1k month but it's just not happening, I even start to wonder if millionaire gurus don't really live in a 1 bed flat and this BHW forum is a hobbyist's hoax. My rational mind doesn't believe that of course, but I do have my moments.

    Right now I'm on Facebook ads to Teespring, and not a single sale. I don't get it, my ads and shirts look fine when I compare with Don Wilson's and others' case studies. I can't see why it's wrong.

    One thing I know is that I never give up, I work as hard today as I did when I first started this, I take full responsibility for my failures and I have a strong belief in myself that I CAN do this if I can just get over this hump.

    I'm off for a stroll now, I'll read your answers when I get back.
     
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  2. abhi007

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    you need to stop visiting the warrior forum...
     
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  3. Reyone

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    Adding to the incredibly powerful advice above, I would further suggest you to step away from the "affiliate" way of thinking. Try to come up with a business plan rather than trying to blast YouTube videos for ppd or whatever other affiliate crap.
     
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  4. Techxan

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    You re actually just beginning your IM career. Until you have the epiphany that the gurus are screwing you over with methods that don't work because they are incomplete, or outright frauds, you are just a sucker.

    You have to make the mistakes, jump from place to place, and get all that out of the way so you can actually sort the crap from the cream, and you finally got here.

    You say that it has been working on IM for two years, but I bet what you mean is you have been bouncing all over the place trying to make something work, you don't mean that you started a project and worked ONLY ON IT for two years.

    As for the t-sirt deal, I would imagine the other guy is simply a better marketer. If he has more brand awareness, he will outsell you. Get a viral design and you will outsell him.
     
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  5. netmoney1

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    Anyone that says they are a "guru" should be avoided. I'm guessing that you spent the majority of that $10k on guru shit.

    People who really know what they are doing will create businesses...and not sell shit telling others how to be successful.

    Also, are you sure you are seeing these "millionaire gurus" on BHW? This is probably the less guru place on the net...which is why is it better than the rest.

    Spend your time reading...not buying guru bullshit.
     
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  6. Numbuh362

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    You need to find something that you like and stick to it, don't bounce around. If you spent 2 years on one method you'd be making money. Yes it's hard but you need to find something that works. Lets say you like cooking, make a twitter for cooking, instagram, and pinterest, get followers and promote your site/ e cook books. If you stick to it you'll be successful. Find something you like doing so it'll be easier to stick with.
     
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  7. Talksmoney

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    There is a big difference between being productive and just busy. If most of your time is spent learning and not doing you will never make it. How much traffic are you really sending to whatever offer it is your promoting? I can tell you for almost certainty 5k of good traffic will result in at least a few sales for almost any product or service if the offer is being viewed by your target audience. The people making the most money are having the most eyeballs on their offer. It's really that easy, just master one traffic modality and use that to send traffic to your offer. Once you make your first sale you can scale that out to whatever income you want. Easy day...

    TM
     
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  8. Panther28

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    keep a very accurate record of what your planning to do, task wise, also focus on completion and making $1 inside a method. Every method that i use for a scale up takes months to setup first. Your masters took you how long? 6 years. everything worthwhile takes time
     
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  9. BassTrackerBoats

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    Maybe because 6 Jillion others are selling the EXACT same thing.

    Offer a different product/service that is an ancillary item to the products that you think are successful.

    Sell your products via a different method.

    Masters degree... I bet you can write. Slap together some KW research and put a site up based on content using those KWs. Rank and monetize it.

    Build a KW rich site with good content, montetize it and then get Adwords coupons and drive traffic to it for 1/20th of the actual cost of the ads.

    Do the same with FB ads.
     
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  10. Techxan

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    That is a "carve this into your brain" statement
     
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    No worries mate, You are just Going through a Bad Phase(a bit long though) But hey, Never Give Up. In IM, Blogging, With Hard work you need some luck too...

    Your Hardwork will Start Paying off and remember When the going gets tough, the tough get going. I am Been there in the Situation.

    Just Keep Working.
     
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    Tip 1: Stop spending money on shiny objects that you don't need!!!!
    Tip 2: Find a market with high demand and low supply.
    Tip 3: Provide your "OWN" product to that market and not someone else's product!!!
    Tip 4: Don't price your product out of the current market.

    Tip 5: Let the demand find you and you go and find the demand
     
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  13. mickyfu

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    People who say they make 10k a day do not sell information on how make money like the Big Dogs do. They are too busy making money to be scratching around for pennies off mugs on the internet.

    By the way it took me about 2 years to start making money, I do not see the first two years as a waste of time, you can learn a lot in two years, even things you may think you have not learnt. Just like any job really, people spend years learning before they make any income.
     
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    I would have to disagree with you that one. I know a few super affiliates who make 7 figures a year who sell information for $10k or 20k a pop. Practically peanuts if you value the information you're getting from them.

    However, if you have 5-10 guys willing to buy this type of information then this will make it worthwhile for them.
     
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    IMO, t-shirts are not the easiest thing to promote online. Someone else may be doing it successfully, but it doesn't mean all will have success at it. There seem to be many easier options which can make some quick bucks or even a reasonable monthly income.
     
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    One of the biggest thing successful people do is surround themselves with other successful people.

    If you have your own product why are you not looking for affiliates? There are plenty of people that would be happy to Pimp a good product for a share of sales. Once you get some money then bring in a true blue internet marketer so you can focus on product development and getting your name out to companies that might carry your product.
     
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  17. stharthjw6j

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    To be clear, the penny dropped on the gurus and especially WF a good year ago, yes I'm currently learning Don Wilson's Facebook ads course but it seems more down-to-earth than the Eben Pagan-type courses of the world. And besides, I don't pay gurus anymore, I pick up any course that interests me when they're shared on BH forums. Same with softwares, I only look for cracked stuff if I need to get something. My $ bleeding days are over. But now I need some $ making days for a nice change.

    I'm really doing FB-Teespring right now to get some money in the bank to start with, and then later maybe outscource it and start my own e-products biz. I spent most of the 2 years on YouTube->personal diet coaching/a little Amazon aff, but I was getting so many video deletions and so little ranking traffic anyway, YouTube is dead.

    I admit I have bounced around over the 2 years but really I want to stick to this FB->Teespring thing now until I make it work, I just can't see the sense why my ads aren't working.

    People here have made some good points that I want to address, I'll have another walk then respond to each one as to why I struggled with what you suggested, then maybe I'll be clearer as to why I have these blocks.

    Thanks for your help everyone, I do appreciate it.
     
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  18. oscilay

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    People who can do it, do it. Those who can't, "teach" others. That`s the story behind those gurus and that`s why everyone who will purchase any of these stupid guides will end up making a big fat 0 in IM. I can find tons of shares and methods on this forum that are a lot more valuable than any course/book no matter how much it costs. My 2 cents...
     
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    Welcome to the club
     
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    $10K for what? For eBooks and "tools"?
     
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