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its a shame, i guess it was bound to happen

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by mogomotsi, Jun 27, 2012.

  1. mogomotsi

    mogomotsi Registered Member

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    i have to admit, though BHW is the best IM website, it has become the playground for the self promoting, earnings inflating, rude guys and girls. I am not referring to anyone specifically, but any thread that is started by a newbie is either bashed or in most cases criticized.

    I always help many guys here and also offline. regardless how stupid the question is, i always try to answer sincerely and without undermining the next person's integrity. I believe not all of us were created equally hence we can help one another wisely without bashing the next persons idea.

    My point is, BHW is not the same anymore, its filled with youngsters with nothing but o prowl the forum and make rude comments when newbies ask for help.
    let me say something [ when you need help someone will tell you use the search button on the forum], though it is still somewhat easy to the techno savvy guys to a complete noob, this is difficult.
    here is a simple analogy, if you are not willing to help, why not stay away from posting useless rude reply.

    PS, i know my statement above is not coherent or somewhat lacks the integrity to state my point as English is not my first language, but i believe you get the point.

    together we can make this place a better place for for all, divide we are idiots trying to look smart.
     
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  2. steelballs

    steelballs BANNED BANNED

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    Here here agree 100%



    Wish I could withdraw this post OP as you are not worth supporting

    OP - I cannot accept your bitching in the posts below
     
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  3. ShadeDream

    ShadeDream Elite Member

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    Sometimes they just have to figure stuff out for themselves. You give them a finger, they'll take your whole hand. If every noob started posting these stupid threads we would have to sift through crap in order to find anything valuable within this forum. Certain questions are as easy to answer as doing a Google search whereas others take slightly more effort but the search button is here.

    PS. G-S-T is spot on with his post below. :)
     
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  4. G-S-T

    G-S-T Executive VIP Jr. VIP

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    Been a member for over a year, 37 posts and you have said "Thank's" 7 times...

    Stop bitching in the lounge and go help some people out then...
     
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  5. mogomotsi

    mogomotsi Registered Member

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    G-S-T, i hate to say it, but you are an idiot with the never to say i ma bitching, i don't spend my day looking for the next victim( if you know what i mean)
     
  6. G-S-T

    G-S-T Executive VIP Jr. VIP

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    Im an idiot ay... Have you any idea how many people I have helped on this forum? Look at my rep, you think I got that from posting smart ass comments? Let me answer that for you. No!

    I work my ass of helping noobs just like you. I do this out of the kindness of my own heart. This thread is a slap in the face for any member who has gone out of their way to help a newbie, then you come along and slate us for helping people such as yourself out.

    You need to take a long hard look at your life, give your attitude a slap round the face and then come back to this forum when your ready to show a little gratitude to the people who make this forum what it is today.

    I hope you get neg repped into oblivion for your thread. As it truly sucks!
     
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  7. sapo

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    Honestly some questions just piss people off, cause you know some of these noobs just come here with no effort into making any progress on their own. Any Question that are looking for spoon-fed answers to the simplest questions, should be met with criticism and ridiculed.

    Nothing nothing dumber then reading in the CPA section, with thread title 'What is CPA?' or 'What is Incentive?'
     
  8. doorenour

    doorenour Newbie

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    Few years ago I've been a moderator on a Linux forum. I've spent so much time there and helped people out whenever I could. And I hated noobs who just registered to ask a question it was very easy to find. I hated when people experienced an error and didn't even bother to copy the error code, paste it to Google and look for an answer for themselves. How did I know that? Because when I did that I found the solution in one of the first three-five results.

    I hated when people thought it was OK to type a very bad-written question with lots of typos etc. and wanted me to do the work for them (for free) 'cause apparently their time was worth more than mine.

    When you're helping on a forum you want those you help to show you some respect for the time your "wasting" to actually help them.

    So yeah, I believe that some noobs deserve slap in the face when they start stupid topic. And I don't mind if I get one in a short future here, on BHW. I'd even go as far to say that it is better for them, 'cause anyone who wants to achieve something has to learn to figure out things for himself, to look for answers from different sources, combine them and build upon.
     
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  9. partymarty4870

    partymarty4870 Elite Member

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    I'm one of those guys who may give a newbie a smart ass answer, I'm also one of those guys who'll give lots of help and advice when I think the question deserves it.

    I won't spoonfeed though. I'll try to word my reply in a way that will make them think for themselves.

    I give thanks when it's due, and sometimes I'l helpful enough to get some back. I'll give rep when it's due too, but I've also got a pretty itchy neg rep finger sometimes.

    Just the other week I bought a beginner a site and hosting for a year - because he asked intelligent questions and was here to learn.

    So if I want to give a smart ass answer to a stupid question I'll continue to do so. I'm sorry if it offends you.
     
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  10. senior

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    @op:This was never advertised as a noob forum. I think big contributors like G-S-T go above and beyond for a very appreciative group of people that genuinely want to learn IM. You are in the OTHER group I guess... Ask Everything-Do Nothing is your mantra after-all
     
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  11. wanfirdaus

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    Nice thread
     
  12. xxtoni

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    Someone please do something good for this forum and ban this moron.
     
  13. kammy

    kammy Newbie

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    I think there is a simple solution to all this. A Newbie forum category where everybody new in IM may ask his/her IM questions. Everybody willing to help may visit this Newbie Category. The rest may just visit other forum categories. A moderator will move all newbie threads to the Newbie category.
     
  14. partymarty4870

    partymarty4870 Elite Member

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    thats pretty much what BHW is now - If I need help or advice I usually ask in JrVIP, you don't get as many answers, but they'll usually be good ones.
     
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    The reason a lot of more experienced/knowledgeable members get irritated by newbies asking dumb questions is because the newbies do not have the desire or work ethic to even use the search function. 90% of questions have already been answered. Whenever I have a question I use BHW search and Bing/Yandex search to find what I want. I also took the time to apply for various private accounts which give me access to a lot of good information. But even after all that, it takes ingenuity and hard work. I am getting more PMs lately asking for exact money making methods i.e. spoonfeeding. I always like to help regarding BH SEO but I would never respect someone who is so lazy that they can't use the search function or their own brains once in a while enough to help them. It really is like people don't want to use their brains because it does require energy and it does hurt. I'm not a coder, I'm not exceptional in technical things, but I managed to make money by raw hard work and using my brain to get around roadblocks in my own way. This is known as 'thinking outside the box'. Basically the OP is wondering why more people who haven't even bothered to use the search function, don't get spoonfed precise working money making methods which have in many cases taken older members years of blood sweat and tears to develop. A lot of the 'experts' have paid their dues and done shit on their own, people looking to be spoonfed have done absolutely nothing. It's like going to a store and asking them to pay you for working there for a year, even though you've never worked there for a second ever in your life.

    Edit: neg repped for insulting GST, no need for it and ungrateful considering contributions he has made (which you can find, amongst many others, using the BHW search function!)
     
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  16. bashhunter

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    I do not see the picture from your view OP.
    If I am thinking about heading up to BHW and asking a question I use two search areas before that.
    First I Google it, and if the answer I find is not enough I search in BHW.
    Many times I find the specific answer by these two searches, and I start trying it myself. Of course I can not have success all the time at first tries, so I try to get more and specific information about the matter.
    For example, you can have many problems when you first try to install Wordpress or likes, and these many problems have many answers. So instead of coming here and making a topic like "I can not install Wordpress" I try all I can and make a topic like "Cheatin' Uh? Problem at Wordpress Installation" which is more specific and takes less time for both me and the BHW people.
    So I only advise you to be polite to all people here, even if they are rude to you. If you have problems with some people then report them or do something else within the rules.
    But with these stats of your account you do not seem to be the right person to say that "BHW was better before".
     
  19. ferma231

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    I have to agree at G-S-T , and to OP too .

    There are few noobs who post stupid threads, but there are also noobs and experts who post awsome threads :)

    You just need to open your eyes , and thats all

    I think there should be some restriction for new members, maybe they could make thread when they get some ammount of posts or they need to be member for some time , something like that
     
  20. IamNRE

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    I have to agree with the OP, there's a lot of Johnny come latelys that like to come out and swear and be all bad ass and over troll. Those people need to tone it down a bit.