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"it works for them but not for me"

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by KeyzDT, Feb 2, 2012.

  1. KeyzDT

    KeyzDT Power Member

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    over the years I have been moderetly successful with IM. I have tried a dozen different methods year after year (always expirementing) and I find it interesting that there is always that one method/platform that everyone else seems to swear by but for you its been bunk.

    For me it's been facebook. Never been able to run a decent campaign with it. Guess I just dont have the touch. I use a variety of methods to promote my sites now but facebook just isnt one of them. how bout yall?
     
  2. NikosX

    NikosX Power Member

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    I can feel you 100% KeyzDT. Whenever I made an app or a campaign for some client on Facebook it had success. When I try it on my stuff then its medium to no good at all!

    THE FB CURSE
     
  3. Tosty

    Tosty Registered Member

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    For me it's:

    -Facebook
    -Twitter
    -Youtube
    -Micro Niche Sites
    -CPA
    -Content Locking
    -Etc
     
  4. LOCKS

    LOCKS Newbie

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    I think I learnt something while playing poker. It's all about consistency! If you keep swapping and changing you'll end up losing, stick with a method, even if you lose the first, second, third time... In the end you WILL win.
     
  5. smallgiant

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    As a former poker player, that has to be one of the worst metaphors I have ever heard. Seems more like the gambler's fallacy, than actual poker strategy. Anyways...

    @OP, you need to realize that some people are always going to be better at some things. That is why you outsource. Heck I outsource almost 30-40% of the work I need to do, and still turn a great profit. Some things I just suck at, while others I don't have the time.

    You also need to learn to use the tools that are around. Especially the ones that cost money.

    At the moment I'm running a few great twitter and facebook campaigns. Most of the work was done by others. :)
     
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    BFHoodn!nja Regular Member

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    For me all the methods that did not work had one thing in common and that was that I did not take the patience to learn them and experiment with them for long enough.
    I abandomed MNS with adsense in august and then ran around like a fool trying countless of methods with a attention span of a 4 year old.

    In december I decided to put time and effort back into MNS and 2 months later I am seeing really great results. I'm seeing results with adsense and i'm seeing results with Clickbank, methods I now know by heart because I took the time to perfect them and even now i'm still learning every day. If you want to learn a method, stick to it. If it doesn't work take a different approach and and don't get demotivated if that doesn't work right away aswell . Even if it takes weeks, months or years, where is the rush, eventually you will make it.
     
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  7. stallion45d

    stallion45d Regular Member

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    "it works for them but not for me" .

    Sometimes, It takes like a few days/weeks or even months to make a method work. You have to twist it , give you personal touch to it. At the end you will get money or somenthing new you learnt that will help you with the next thing/method you will try.

    I always say that nobody fails in IM, the simply quit before they success
     
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    Nookie Monster Senior Member

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    For some unknown reason I highly doubt that you are making any bank. Try sharing some real helpful info on our forum.
     
  9. Jonny13131

    Jonny13131 Regular Member

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    I don't mean to be offensive but it is your fault that you are not making money your not simply unlucky. My guess is that you are trying a bit of everything without actually seeing anything through to the end, if you persevere with a method you will make money but it does take time.
     
  10. n3xus

    n3xus Junior Member

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    yeah i feel your pain bro. craigslist is my downfall it never works. i think its cause i suck at being a liar lol
     
  11. Tosty

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    I was sorta joking and I meant those were the methods that DID not work, as the thread states. Talking about unhelpful posts, try looking at urs.

    I had 5 MNS sites for around 6 months 2 years ago and only made about 20 bucks, so I stopped... Just came back to it about 2 weeks ago, prepping for my next venture I want to try again.
     
  12. Expertpeon

    Expertpeon Elite Member

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    Program a facebook registration bot in python that uses proxies.
    create 100-200k accounts
    Use accounts to friend a ton of random people with scraped data
    profit.
     
  13. KeyzDT

    KeyzDT Power Member

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    ok

    I know nothing about "python" or programming for that matter so this would take some learning on my part first. This, however, could be a reason why facebook doesnt work for me, I'm not using a good strategy with it, I don't have a good enough skill set to incorporate, etc.


    just so people are clear...I'm not saying facebook cant work for me I'm saying it hasnt and it could be for a variety of reasons.

    its just funny how we are all good at certain things but stink at that one thing that everyone else seems to be good at thats all im saying hahaha


    stick with one method is good because the learning curve can be steep but I think experimenting and adding new methods is a must.
     
  14. ehinoze

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    hahaha
    apart from these you mentioned, what's really left?
    i think you have to try harder, and focus a little more, at least for a few weeks/ months before you conclude that they dont work for you.

     
  15. sfidirectory

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    I've always been moderately successful with social media like Facebook, Twitter etc. What exactly are you doing with social media? Do you regularly update your fanpages etc? If people see you regularly putting up new content (Wordbooker is handy for WP blogs, and TwitPress and OnlyWire) they will start to think that you have something worthwhile to look at and they will check it out. I recently had a site that publiched 5 posts a day to over 50 different networks and I got some relatively good coin, although since I am resuming my I.T studies in the next 2 weeks I have put it on the backburner as my studies come first above this stuff. Am hoping I get to choose my own topics for the visual presentations as I have a few SEO presentation ideas in mind.

    [EDIT]: I also have a whole lot of "free" software that helps me out with this. PM me for more info...
     
  16. Lutherblissett

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    Your success is low for a few reasons

    1 - your playing on a field that is very competitive and very advanced. Facebook is arguably the most popular site online. . why do you try to start there. Its like playing baseball for your jv highschool team and then asking why you can't hit a randy johnson fastball.

    2 - your late. If you were working facebook in 2008-2009 you would see great success why? cause you could have created 5k accounts on the same freaking IP, and done a shitload of other wild things. To do this now requires a lot of capital, and ability.

    Problem is back then people were like yah facebook is really coming up . when am i going to get a GIANT BST THREAD that games the entire system and make money from a $97 investment. . psssst. . your already to late to the game at that time.

    You want to make money in general . . go where people don't go. Take what is on the up and coming. . . hit a site that has a lot of traffic, but little competition. Take that burly old site no one talks about. . . but has massive traffic.

    I used to try to wack YT, big G and FB . . and the sad thing is i had good success on YT awhile back. . now i won't touch it with a 10 foot pole. .why? not because i can't . . but why would i work so freaking hard for so little and such a high risk of getting blown out and failing?. . .there is 10mil IM'ers hitting these places. . go where there are none but lots of people and you'll make cash.
     
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    andrewk323 Registered Member

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    For me its using cpa offers and twitter. It never seems to work for me.
     
  18. gb5000

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    EXACTLY!!!!

    I've written a whole thread in the money making section about this before that touches upon the same reasons you wrote above about why most IM'ers here don't make coin! (Above a few dollars a day)!

    OP, Pay close attention to what this guy is saying above. It will save you a TON of headache!

    Great Post man!
     
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  19. KeyzDT

    KeyzDT Power Member

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    ok so essentially timing is my problem with facebook. fair enough. I guess timing could be a problem for a lot of things.

    You don't touch YT? I love YT. Granted they have gotten stricter over time but I still do ok with them.