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It is OFFICIAL! I am a horrible person...

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by Fuggz, Mar 18, 2016.

  1. Fuggz

    Fuggz Power Member

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    So I was browsing the local Facebook "online garage sale" group looking to buy a few things when I run across a spam post of a kid trying to sell his "web services". He is charging $250 for a simple page website and $45 for Facebook page creation with $12 per update or $30/hr! I look at his personal site and it is horrendous, made with Wix, and all his sites he has under projects are made with Wix and GoDaddy Website Builder, something I could make in 10 minutes. Very poorly made at that. So I make a comment along the lines of:

    "Is this a joke!? Your own personal website is made with Wix (horribly done even for Wix), and your project examples are all made with GoDaddy's Website Builder. These sites are slow (link to PageSpeed) they are not responsive meaning they are not compatible with mobile devices and with most businesses 50%+ of the traffic would more than likely be mobile (link to mobile friendly test). It is bad enough that you must result to spamming Facebook just to get jobs, but at least give a decent service for the price you are asking!"

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    "For $30/hr for updates someone could watch a 15 minute video and have as much 'wed development' knowledge as you!"

    He deletes the post and immediately makes another post the exact as before, just fresh and without my comments so I make the same comments again and tell him I am not going to let this go, he is pretty much ripping people off! Well he blocks me but I see from another account he posted the same thing again. Me being me I have plenty of accounts in this group so I have no problem switching and making the same comments, but this time I click on his profile to check out who the fuck this little shit is...

    Turns out he is a very disabled/hanicapable young guy who does this "website design" to make extra $$$ since he can not get a regular job most of us would be able to get. I could not tell by his profile pic and didn't know until now.

    Gosh I feel terrible right now, had to tell someone about this as now a couple hours later it is a little humorous to me.
     
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    It's all in the game, though.
     
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    Invite him to join BHW, I'll teach him how to upscale and post in 10,000 Facebook groups and make $$$$$
     
  4. Fuggz

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    Oh damn, I checked his personal fb page, he made a post about our interactions and now there is a mob of angry supporters out to get me! If I do not log back into BHW you all know what happened.

    Haha... NO. I actually thought about a VERY blackhat method of acting like a disabled kid looking for web design work. <---Kidding but he is getting $250 for a shitty website I could build in literally 10 minutes.
     
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    He is hmn...making $250...for making shitty sites...you're killin' me man!
     
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    you got too much free time !
     
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    I thought the same.So how many $250 he could have earned in the Time he was messing up with that kid.
     
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    lmfao nooooooo thats horrible dude.

    you gotta make it up to the lil guy! introduce him to fiverr or something lol
     
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    Who's to say he isn't the guy on the right, and just playing to your emotions?

    It's the internet, man - you never really know!
     
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  10. Fuggz

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    I was on the site after dinner messaging with sellers of nice furniture I am looking to buy so I was there anyways. After I wrote the response the first time I would just paste the same thing if I saw his ad come up again so didn't really waste too much time. But, I checked his facebook page again and there are a lot more people reacting and commenting on his post about me being rude and they are all pretty upset.

    It is just all about ethics. I am not going to post any of the sites here but you should see them, they are the worst I have encountered in a long time, very very very horribly done. If I worked for a car company and knew a lot about automobiles, was on the site and saw someone trying to sell a car I knew had a near blown engine, shot transmission, bald tires and rusty body, and I saw the seller asking 3x blue book price for the car while claiming that it is in excellent condition I would have done the same thing. But instead of cars it was web development, and the seller has fairly debilitating cerebral palsy, I just didn't know that before I layed into him...
     
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  11. tymillz

    tymillz Super Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    Fuggz, how have you been? Still picking on disabled kids I see. JK

    Hit me on Skype.
     
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    You kinda are a horrible person.

    Kidding.

    In all seriousness, the market will pay a price for services rendered - $250 for a site is absolutely nothing, and the kid is the perfect contractor for the mom and pop client and small local business. Let him deal with their perfect vision, and no budget to match. It's so much easier to work with medium enterprises since they expect the same level of work but also have the budget spend to compensate you for your services.
     
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  13. WebTG

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    If he is disable then it does't mean he can charge overprice for the shitty services, Buyers are not responsible for his situation and i don't think he is getting many customer at that price.

    You can introduce him to BHW forum and here he might learn more about internet marketing to make some extra cash and that will be fair for everyone.
     
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    wow!!! well you dint know that he was disabled so you are not horrible person but it is good example of we never stop and think about how our actions without thinking would effect others...it was something refreshing to read made me think if I have offended anyone anywhere on internet by my comments whom i shouldn't have
     
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    I learned to never judge what I see without knowing exactly what is all about. Should be a lesson for you.
     
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    That doesn't mean he or anybody could rip people off like that. He is still a person ripping people off, no matter what condition he's in. That's not a healthy way to do business and it's most likely not stable. Hopefully, he invests that money into something for stable income rather be that desperate to spam Facebook groups advertising a service to rip people off.
     
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    Good and bad are absolutes and are ultimately subjective.

    Cerebral palsy or not, if he's competent enough to realise what he's doing, then it doesn't change the situation; do not let your emotions cloud your judgement.
     
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    Hi it's true i am the disabled person OP has mentioned.

    I find it very heartwarming to know that you have come onto an online platform to:

    1. Share your story (with such magnanimous intentions to label yourself as a horrible person, because, why else would you share this on an online forum, right?)
    2. poke fun at a disabled person, whom, you don't even know how, has lived his entire life
    3. post his picture online as if your story isn't awesome enough!

    Good on you because you're:
    1. not-disabled
    2. good at making websites worth $250 in under 10mins
    3. definitely one with so much win in life that you're doing all this..

    Cheers mate, very good on you, respect, hats off to what you represent, keep on doing what you're doing! ;)

    /s (required cause some people don't get it)
     
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  19. Eternal1912

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    He can always be the guy on the right. Plus, to make things up if he really is that guy, then simply tell him about blackhat to learn some things or send him some guides to increase the quality of his services. I would feel bad too, probably :D
     
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    Move on to Wordpress, mate. It won't take much time and the quality will be higher! :)