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is youtube as bad as google with the constant algo changes and shit?

Discussion in 'YouTube' started by Ranko Jones, Oct 1, 2012.

  1. Ranko Jones

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    Im trying to get out of seo and into other areas. Youtube has been one on my mind but the thing is owned by the same cunts who have almost already caused me a breakdown on many occasions. So im wondering if you get alot of bullshit with them changing the playing field every next day like with google or not so much on youtube?

    i mena like cracking down on exploits quickly (ie bots) and stuff like that. if i was making them myself (zenno) would this be much of an issue?

    i like the idea of facebook because it has nothing to do with those pieces of shit google but likewise i dont know anything about facebook and know more about youtube. Gonna do both but thinking of trying some youtube methods 1st.
     
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    Not so much on YouTube.

    That's why I jump from bullshit SEO to YouTube. :D
     
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    Still does happen on yt though. The last 5 months, changes have made it more difficult.
     
  4. Ranko Jones

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    what bots would you reocmend i create first. i really have no idea what im doing..guess i should do it manually first to figure out how things work to see what i should automate.

    What is the general idea? coming from an seo background how would you explain it to me? ie is a fb page like my homepage then and the replacement of seo is getting likes or what?
     
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    1. Create video(based on your niche). Fiverr can help u.
    2. Upload
    3. Blast with hundred thousands of views
    4. LIKES
    5. put CPA/CLICKBANK/AFF link in your description.
    6. $$$$$$ + long term marketing as long as your video is not removed by YT.
     
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    1-5 no drama
    6 drama
     
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    First time hearing bout youtube algo....strange
     
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    my sister CB account tht i'm doing experiment ..

    2 videos + 1 week = kaching! :D

    I don't think I can do this with website + SEO stuff, penguin and lalalala.. Maybe a month.
     
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  9. Ranko Jones

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    so does views act the same as backlinks in google rnaking then? ie the more views the higher the rank?

    if so it sooudns way fuckign easier to make a bunch f bots to rnak yt vids than rank in g.
     
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    anotehr question...when google ads come up on youtube vids does it mean the person is gettign money for clicks like with adsense or they dont get anyhting and they are there by default?
     
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    That means that they accepted Revenue Sharing. YouTube finds the advertisers, you accept revenue sharing, they put the ads on your video and you make $X per 1,000 views.
     
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    What are you using to boost your views? Software? FF Plugin?

    I do a lot of youtube videos, but never considered boosting the views.
     
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    im getting into it too ;D nice stuff i think, ill give it a try
     
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    Anyone?
     
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    There are lots of view sharing sites like vagex, youlikehits, addmefast, etc.
     
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    Grab a public RTSP bot and figure it out.
     
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    I've never bothered with Google and ranking sites due to the "animal" updates, jumped straight in with Youtube, cpa and just started learning how scripts work.

    Youtube:
    It's easy to rank for youtube if you know what you are doing, it isn't just the views, likes and comments that make you rank. There is also optimizing your channels seo for your keyword, subscribers help and also links on youtube pointing to your channel. When you leave a comment on youtube, your name is a link back to your channel. All these things I've noticed helped me rank from own experiments.

    Facebook:
    Only been doing facebook scripts for a week and half, but from what i've seen it can be very very profitable. There isn't any uploading of videos or creating videos. You just link your script to a app and of you go. But apparanty Facebook are currently updateing there servers and this has caused 2 of my scripts (got 2free and 1paid) to stop posting to the users wall and only posts when a new user actualy uses the app. Not exactly viral anymore!

    Both methods seem to be profitable but it isn't easy work as you have too contend with your videos being flagged, or apps being reported as spam aswell as updates to servers.

    I'd defo say it's easier and safer than playing with a panda though ;)

    Edit:

    Tools to boot views:
    Vagex (safe but slow!!)

    u2bviews (There views and comments leave something to be desired, they do deliver but you can expect a couple of hundred to be missing. There tech support is terrible. There comment liker how ever is excellent.)

    enhanceviews (hmmm there like and view tools are quick, but I've had a fare few videos start to have there count viewer freeze when useing them)
     
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    how do i go about chossing videos/content to promote. i mean for instance keyword research is the first port of call with seo, whats the equiv with youtibe because i know some niches will be more competitive than others right? what factors should i look for when deciding what niche i wanna get into/what i wanna promote on youtube. what 'signals' say dont go there similar to several million comp on google would say nono for instance.
     
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    Sorry for the slow reply mate, had to shoot of last night!

    What to look for? That's a hard one haha, some people can rank for a keyword with over 20,000 other competitor videos and some can't. Me personally am now able to rank for keywords with a comp level between 22,000 and am currently trying to rank for a 37,000. I'm on the bottom of page 2 for that one. I started with a monthly global search of no lower than 3,000 when I first started and a comp level no greater than 10,000. Once I had got my feet wet and learn't how it all works i thn started to up the comp level, with a higher comp level comes a larger global search ;) It's upto you how ou decide to start, you might decide to jump in the deep end and learn quick or start low nd learn it at a comfortable pace. Word of advice though, if you decide to dive straight in the deep end then you best be prepared to get flagged numerous times! That applies to certain low comp key words aswell though. Today I uploaded a video fo a promising niche! Had over 27,000 searches a month and only 5,700 odd comp videos. I decided to try and rank, once it was uploaded i started ofsite SEO and jumped straight to first page, half hour later I was flagged for spam and scam misuse... Went to look at my imp and click rate and in the hour and half it was up my imp/click ratio was on fire. Unfortunatly I now have to try and find a way to get on front page without being flagged again. As for what Niche to get into... Anything and everything bro! Seriously I have keygens, cracks, e-books, walkthroughs... Anything that can be download get into, just anylize the comp level and decide what you fill comfortable trying out first ;)

    I'm going to pm you my Skype id fill free to add me if you have any more questions ;)
     
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