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Is this method Legal?

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by LockBox, Jan 13, 2010.

  1. LockBox

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    Hello,

    Does anyone know if its legal to download trailers on youtube from film companies and upload them to my account? This would help my niche site.

    Thanks :)
     
  2. LockBox

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    double post
     
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  3. videz

    videz Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    i think if you use the same video, it's an infringement of the company's copyright?
     
  4. alex.b

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    i guess the worst that could happen is a C&D letter and then you just take down the video. or maybe they don't even go through that hassle but just flag and/or report you so google will delete your video or ban your acc.
    however, i'd also like to know if there is anything worse that could happen :)
     
  5. LockBox

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    Ok its not worth the hassle then if its illegal, if anyone knows about that please let us know :)

    One more thing, if I embed music videos from OFFICIAL distributors such as VEVO. For example if I open blog for music videos with added adsense maybe CPA and i use embeded videos of Rihanna from the official page on youtube "RihannaVEVO". This should be legal? Since they already uploaded them on youtube and didnt disable embed code. I think adsense/cpa would be also ok with that, anyone?

    Thanks for help
     
  6. mariobaez

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    If you don't have rights to the media, and/or didn't partake in its creation, then its illegal. The same thing goes for trailers.

    In terms of "Will the companies come after me if I upload them elsewhere", it depends on a lot of factors. Some marketing campaigns may want the trailer to be in a specific medium so there can be proper messages given for a particular product.

    One example are music videos. They are essentially "trailers" to buy music. But as you can see with some superstar pages ( like Beyonce ) and many infringement takedowns ( like with 70's bands like Yes; can't find them on Youtube anymore ), more companies are trying to take control even of their marketing content. I think even the Halo 3 commercials were taken down if they weren't uploaded by the right people for a certain period of time.

    The content equals a pageview, and a pageview equals at least one impression.

    If a company is hired to promote a movie, or if a movie is to be released, these pageviews are valuable in permeating more information ( contests, other trailers, products etc. ).

    The movement to control content by huge companies has heated up the last year. And with Google's audio/video fingerprinting technology, it takes only mere seconds to notify another person if their work is being copied.

    But in terms of movie trailers, I really haven't seen any resistance for companies to take down trailers on Youtube. It is essentially free exposure. But, wouldn't be surprised if apathy changes over time, if it hasn't already. You should find the top 10 movies, and see how many multiple copies are on youtube. If you see any takedowns, note the company ( WMG, Paramount, Fox ). If you think its worth it, then go for it.
     
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  7. LockBox

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    Thanks for your reply.

    Do you know how does it work with music videos? If I open a website full of embedded videos from their official channels in youtube, that should be legal right? Since they put them there and doesnt disable embed button. Also how about adsense and cpa networks? Can I use them on this type of site, if the embedding is legal?

    Thanks
     
  8. maineyak

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    I've done it, and all they did was send me a copyright infridgment notice and pulled the video
     
  9. mightybh

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    lol guys you won't get sued for displaying, uploading or re-uploading YT videos. In the worst case scenario you will have your account shut down. YT is the entity responsible for their content and they are the ones who are going to be dealing with copyright infringement claims, not you. When it comes to embedding the videos, this is what the feature is there for, so that you could display the video wherever you want.
     
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    Besides, trailers are there to promote a movie and the more people see it the better for the company.
     
  11. leezz

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    I think it also depends on the video.

    I made a few videos from scratch with stock video and music I had rights to use, and s0ny has claimed a copyright violation on me over at youtube.

    Youtube has not taken down my videos but they have put ads all around them so they now make money from the content.

    Also sometimes with music videos they will just mute the video so it has no sound and leave it up.

    Here is an example http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wIHzQeN5mk
     
  12. crazyflx

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    I've done this hundreds of times, except I download the movie trailers from Apple (the quality is much better, as you can download them in 1080 HD quality).

    Here is what the movie companies do:

    They ALL are partnered with YouTube, and YouTube has an algorithm that can detect whether the content that has been uploaded belongs to the movie companies or not.

    Each movie production company has their own set of rules that they have submitted to YouTube as to what YouTube is supposed to do in the event that somebody else has uploaded content that doesn't belong to them.

    I get this email from YouTube quite often:

    "Our algorithm has detected that you have uploaded content that belongs to Paramount Pictures. Paramount has told us that we can allow you to continue to have your upload hosted with us, but they will begin to run ads on your page and have all rights to the revenue generated by those ads"

    I get this one less often:

    "Our algorithm has detected that you have uploaded content that belongs to Paramount Pictures. This is against our TOS and we have removed the upload from our servers. This is a warning, and if we find that you have uploaded content that doesn't belong to you again, we'll disable your account and remove all videos that you have uploaded"
     
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  13. alex.b

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    thx 4 that crazyfix :) now is there a way to find out beforehand if a company/video is in their DB and will trigger one of those responses?
     
  14. SSL9000J

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    If you're really worried about it, don't download the video. Just use the link back to YT. Honestly, you'll probably be far enough under the radar that you won't have anything to worry about. Torrent sites have bootlegs of entire movies before they're even officially released. Movie trailers copied from YT are the least of anyone's problems.
     
  15. zebrahat

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    IAW, it's not a level playing field. You Tube insists you follow their TOS for uploading videos, but they can violate their own TOS by pulling uploads first and asking questions later, or adding ads to it, for any or no reason depending on what algo was given them.

    What about your appeal to fair use? Not in their algo. What if it's a video you made of your tv screen, as it played the music video? Not in their algo. Users have a reasonable expectation that their videos should remain on YT for discussion, commentary, parody and critique, but this can be bypassed with the flick of a switch or digital relay. Such does a site structurally built for fair use get converted by computer coding into just another gatekeeper for Big Corp.