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Is this an easy way to beat Penguin Panda? I think we need a [casestudy needed I think]

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Bostoncab, Jul 31, 2013.

  1. Bostoncab

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    So I have been thinking about this and I am not sure if I am on the right track or just being foolish. I was thinking about webmaster tools and how it gives you the option to select a url preference whether it is www.site.com or http://site.com or to not care..I actually forget what the options are.

    I was looking at one of my domains that got killed by panda,penguin one of them inside majestic seo and I noticed I did what most of us here did that caused us to suffer penguinization get panderized.. whatever you wanna say.. we got smacked hard by that bitchpimp cutts.

    1) I built thousands of links to the root domain http://site.com

    2) I used the same anchor text again and again.. the keyword I wanted to rank for..

    Now majestic seo also considers www.site.com and http://site.com differently also. In majestic I show thousnads of links to http://site.com but none(almost none) to http://www.site.com It actually considers them subdomains.

    So here is my idea for a case study.. not even sure if its possible to do or not which is why I am asking here.

    1)If all of your links are built to http://site.com set preference inside google for http://www.site.com

    2) This is the part I can not figure out. I use wordpress and as far as I remember wordpress core has a thing where it auto redirects www to no www or vice versa depending on what you told cpanel when you installed it?

    THIS IS WHAT I AM STUCK ON:how to redirect http://site.com to an internal page of wordpress.

    Wouldn't this theoretically tell google that all those external links that were built to http://site.com now point to an inner page of the site?

    CAN SOMONE TELL ME IF I AM JUST BEING RETARDED OR IF I MAY ACTUALLY BE ON TO SOMETHING HERE? Before I waste more time thinking about this.
     
  2. Skyebug77

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    I dont think there is a way to rediect that way. Every site has two url structures. www. and without www. I do not think it is posible to redirect it except thru htaccess file, but if you have any redirections set in WP already, I believe this will over write htaccess file in those instances a redirection is already set by the cms.
     
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    Domains will pass a penalty to subdomains.
     
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    He is not talking about subdomains. He is talking about root vs full url structures
     
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    www is also subdomain...that true
     
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    yes, modify your .htaccess file, best way to do that and still retain link strength at some level (albeit much lower) would be to have mod/rewrite redirect non www. addresses to a specific page that behaves as a custom 404 that has links to all the important central hubs within your site, ie. your categories and tags and archive, not directly to the homepage except through the header link.
    try it out and let us know if it worked for you.

    it is however likely that you'll have to reinstall wordpress and configure it for www. instead of non www, all the internal linking structure would be broken by a mod rewrite like that
     
  9. Bostoncab

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    I think you could just switch to www inside phpmyadmin...no?

    Any idea how the httaccess files should look?
     
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    htaccess is a funny beast, you'd be best served googling a guide on that,
    you wouldn't be changing the www setting in phpmyadmin, you'd be needing to change it within your wordpress install, and i honestly have no clue how to go about doing that, i'd just take a backup of all my posts, backup the ftp folders for the theme and uploads folders, then reinstall with the domain set as www. and import the backup, reupload all the files through ftp, and reset all the normal wordpress settings
     
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    You wouldnt set this up in phpmyadmin..

    In the cpanel of your hosting, you can usually set this up. I don't think that what you're saying would really help a ton.

    However, I do think that making some of the backlinks www.yoursite.com would help make the links look more natural to google. A lot of people always type www whenever they go to a website, and they have no idea the difference of subdomains or seo.. Then just forward the www to the root, either with htaccess, or in your hosting.
     
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    Login to your wordpress dashboard.

    Click on settings.

    you will see;
    WordPress Address (URL)
    Site Address (URL)

    just change both of those to http://www. yourdomain.com from http://

    Make sure you change both and make sure you set it right, coz if you miss spell anything you are f%cked.