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Is there any way to create a blog network using free sub domains hosted on paid hosting?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by krzysiekz, Mar 17, 2013.

  1. krzysiekz

    krzysiekz Senior Member

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    Hi everyone,

    I want to create a small blog network for a website. I don't want to pay for domains. Ideally, I would like to use free sub domains that let me host the sites on my own hosting. I am happy to pay for hosting.

    This way, I have a bunch of sub domains all hosted by myself, under my control. So I can then install WP on each of those sub domains, and then automating these is a lot easier since they are all hosted by me. The only thing I wouldn't be in direct control of would be the sub domain.

    I know there are some free sub domain providers like afraid.org but it seems all of the name servers would be the same if I used all of their sub domains. So other than the name servers being the same, that is pretty much the exact solution I am looking for. But the name servers all being the same are a foot print, and also that the main domain of each of their sub domains has the same layout/style.

    Can anyone help? Do I really need to buy .coms and other paid domains to make this happen?

    I am also already considering making a blog network on the existing blog sites, like Wordpress.com, Tumblr.com & others - but I prefer the above approach as automation is made a lot easier and consistent.

    Thoughts?

    Thank you. + rep given for truly helpful answers, as I am in need of help here!
     
  2. innozemec

    innozemec Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    you can create yourself a network where you like. For example you can make like 20 wordpress.com , 20 blogger.com and etc.. free hosted blogs.. keep them clean, get high pr / do follow links to them. Depending on the purpose you will use this network for, you can still make it pretty powerful for linking to money sites. Yes, it won't be as powerful as having .com domains, but still is definitely better than nothing!

    Create lets say 5 such quality separate networks and you will be doing really really good
     
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  3. somebodysomewhere

    somebodysomewhere Junior Member

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    Interesting idea, I see the use if you scale it out but if you're using a free service as the OP mentioned aren't they all going to have the same class C IP or what have you? Huge footprint unless you are using multiple services. Same principal applies even if you pay for the domains and the hosting. You would have to spread the love around heavily to keep from getting busted is my thought, no more than 1-5 sub domains or .coms per service? Unless you're diversifying the sub domains as well then you could scale up just be careful not to get your lines crossed is my thought.
     
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    wowhaxor Executive VIP Premium Member

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    In your question it sounds like you want to put them on the same host. This is not going to be affective because they have the same class c IP, in fact the same IP, which links them all together. I think that's what you were saying anyways?
     
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  5. innozemec

    innozemec Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    when using freehosts the IPs doesn't matter because these freehosting services are marked down in google as trustworthy sites and most of the regular SEO rules that apply for our own hosting don't apply there, especially the ones like wordpress, blogger, opera and few more.. Having that in mind if you do the linking to the money sites in a smart random way you will get a benefit.. ofcourse if you just place a link to your money site on all blogs.. that would be stupid move

    I am using such freehosted networks for about 7 years already and following this basic idea i explained, i am doing absolutely great and never had problems with penguin,panda or whatever animal..
     
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  6. somebodysomewhere

    somebodysomewhere Junior Member

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    Wasn't thinking of those you mention as subdomain services but more web 2.0, makes a lot more sense taking that into account. I was saying I would be a lot more careful using non-authority services. I appreciate the idea, yet another project to work on. ;)
     
  7. innozemec

    innozemec Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    well, and web 2.0s work same way.. just figure out who are the most trustworthy, figure out a schema to build and maintain them and the most important - figure out an outbound linking schema that will keep your network safe and productive
     
  8. John_SE

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    Hi if you need free Hosting this is a list I use.
    Some are obsolete and old but you will still get a few free hosting accounts:

    100bestfreewebspace.com/searchPage0/Free-Host.html

    in this way you can get the different nameservers and IP's..
    Or you can use WPMU sites which are also good. Some WPU sites pass domain authority to the individual sites.

    I had a few wpmu sites that got no authority from the domain, and others that increased in page authority..

    I have a mix, and my personal network is doing me well.
     
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  9. krzysiekz

    krzysiekz Senior Member

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    Thanks for your reply. Rep has been added!

    I want to ask you a few things since you have experience with something similar. When you say create 20 * Wordpress.com, 20 * Blogger.com etc - isn't this going to create a scenario where the links your money site gets are worth less and less since with the 20 Wordpress.com blogs, all are hosted on Worpress servers and will have the same IP's I assume. Additionally, the root domain will be the same.

    So will it really help my SERP if I have many accounts on Wordpress.com set up linking back to my money site? I thought the only way to do such a thing is to, for example, make 20 accounts across various free blog sites, that way each domain and IP will be unique. But the hard part here is to keep the software updated so it can register, log in and post content to the blogs on a regular basis.

    If you have had good results just creating 20 * Wordpress.com blogs and using them to link back to your money site with decent results - I may try it out. Won't be too hard to automate just the one site! Just not sure of how well this will work?

    Have you thought about using free web hosts (many have cPanel included) to install WP on various free hosting websites and make a blog from there? The root domain won't have as high an authority like Wordpress.com, but all root domains will be unique and IP's will be unique, too.

    What do you think?

    This is true. However, I think solving the problem regarding hosting IP's is probably a fair bit easier (and cheaper) than buying large amounts of .com domains. There no way to avoid the price tag when buying and renewing the domains, but with hosting I am sure I could work something out.

    Valid point and +rep has been added.

    Thank you for this. While I don't really need it as I have a list of free hosts with cPanel included already, it is a useful resource and it shows you at least wanted to help (and I am sure this will help others). So, enjoy the +rep!
     
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  10. tranza

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    Hi can you share your list with free host with cpanels?. Im on the same boat as you. I was thinking maybe those blogs wont last long on free host due to them been highly moderated.
     
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    I would just use these sites, then make 3-4 posts on each.
    wordpress
    tumblr
    blogger
    yeebe
    000webhost

    that way you don't need to worry about any hosting, all you need for a link to be worth a lot is 3+ posts on the site, and each link will come from a unique IP.
     
  12. DHSellerUK

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    Godaddy has a coupon to get a .com for 99c and you can buy a .info for $3 at Namecheap.. Drop $20 and you can get 10 domains, I don't see a problem here :D

    You can also get EMDs with this so it's way better then a WP/Blogger site which almost every EMD is taken now.

    .co.uk's from Namecheap are $6, if you want to target a specific country as well. Having an actual domain with content is way better than a blogger/Wordpress site IMO, just be willing to drop the couple extra $s!
     
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  13. krzysiekz

    krzysiekz Senior Member

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    Yes, I am very familiar with this structure, but I would register on much more than just a few of those sites. I would register probably on 50 sites and age them and post unique content over a few weeks, and only then start linking out to my money sites.

    Essentially, this is already what I am discussing here - but trying to think about ways in which I can do something like this, but so that it can be easier to automate. Automating 50+ platforms is hard to do since they change often. This is where self hosting is better, as you control everything.

    Thanks for that. Rep added for the post. I understand GoDaddy would have the 99c domains and this is not a problem at all initially, but after a year passes and you need to renew - you're likely slugged with the full RRP at renewal time, making for a very expensive network in terms of upkeep.

    .info isn't a bad idea either, but I am not too sure about building a network consisting of only .info's, etc.
     
  14. DHSellerUK

    DHSellerUK BANNED BANNED

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    Variation is nice!

    look at .biz as well they're also cheap and .net/.org's are around $5 each - The full RRP for a .com is $9-11 so even if you have 2 .com's it shouldn't be above $20/year.

    I'd suggest investing some time and money into the Namecheap marketplace I get some nicely aged domains off there in my niche for cheap as hell! :)
     
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    If you are going to create an effective network, you will have a lot more expenses. The money you spend on the domains will be minimal compared to everything else. Keep in mind that you have to pay for separate hosting for each site (so they have different IPs) and content.

    You can easily get $10 privacy guarded domains through Namecheap.

    If you are trying to make a network on subdomains, you might as well just create a Web 2.0 network and not self host so you can save yourself from bigger expenses.
     
  16. AR!ZONA

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    You don't necessarily need to own multiple hosting IPs. Try a CDN like cloudflare, using different login info for each site.
    You will have a different IP for each site.

    What I do is use expireddomains dot net to find niche sites with backlinks, buy them from namecheap for free whois privacy, then use wayback machine to rebuild content, then set up on a CDN, then build my links on the sites.
     
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    Please consider internetbs.net for your domains. They offer freewhois and have great pricing on their domains - .coms go for $8.49, which is cheaper than namecheap at $10.69. A small saving, but a penny saved is a penny earned, and those domain renewal fees do add up at the end of the year :)
     
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