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Is there any way around this 'seo delay' that seems to be in place now?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Ranko Jones, Apr 24, 2012.

  1. Ranko Jones

    Ranko Jones BANNED BANNED

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    I used to rank low comp kws in one day or two; a week tops mostly.

    Now its taking like 2-3 weeks+ to even start to see any movement from seo work I've been doing.

    Anyone found a workaround for this?
     
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    Catt Mutts Junior Member

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    maybe the competition is not so weak these days
     
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    Time machine
     
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    ive noticed the same thing, its damn annoying. indexing is as fast as it ever was - but getting results from SEO is taking forever.
     
  5. Ranko Jones

    Ranko Jones BANNED BANNED

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    Yup I too noticed the standard index ratios. Its like G has a 'holding pen' for suspected SEOers (I mean a new one besides the sandbox :D).
     
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    That's odd. I'm able to rank long tail keywords in an hour or so. I just use social bookmarking via BMD.
     
  7. Ranko Jones

    Ranko Jones BANNED BANNED

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    Well that doesnt really say much since they would have gone on front page with no seo most likely. Ive had kws that index to front page but that is besides the point of how long seo work takes to take effect.
     
  8. Ranko Jones

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    Actually I wonder if this is the reason why I sandboxed one of my sites. Back then when I was less aware of this delay I would have kept blasting and blasting away when it actually just wasnt working through yet and when G did finally pick them up it was box time due to me having created so many. That is one hypothesis.
     
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    crazedspyker Senior Member

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    In my experience, my sites that rank faster fall off faster too.

    I did notice this same delay on my new site as a lot of my easy keywords are still on page 2 after 2 weeks of steady promotion (all unique content backlinks), but I'm going to be patient and just keep working at it without sending a surge of links. I think it will be better in the long run anyways.

    Google has been strange for a while now. It does feel wierd building such strong backlinks and being outranked by page 1 sites with literally 2 social bookmarks and an EMD+suffix domain.

    I have no clue what to do. Maybe google expects a certain type of backlink early on now to get that quick rank.
     
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  10. jb2008

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    2-3 weeks is normal. Usually I find that if you rank within a couple days they slap you back down into the oblivion. Slow and steady wins the race.

    In SEO terms, 2-3 weeks is still quick. Even for low competition keywords these days.
     
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    I am also experiencing this delay..client site is just stuck and all keywords within top 30 just not moving inspite of powerful links..wonder why.
     
  12. Flurbuff

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    yes I see delays as well

    it's definitely real, but I can't speculate as to the what, when, where, and how
     
  13. Ranko Jones

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    Hey Im not THAT bothered if they work through eventually which they seem to do.

    Just gotta factor it into calculations and have several 'irons in the fire' so Im not watching paint dry with just one kw/site etc.

    come to think of it perhaps this is not new and the ones where I thought I was ranking quickly due to my 'l33t seo skillzzz' in the past were just a general dance with new kws.

    I dont think its that tho as I noticed a sharp drop off around february when I was working new kws. Maybe maybe not. Hard to say.

    Anywho I shall carry on as I was; with perhaps a lil more patience.
     
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    What techniques are you using? G has changed the way they are looking at your back links. Have you been blasting exact keyword anchor text and not diversifying or using naked URLs? What kind of tactics are you using?
     
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    I stopped creating backlinks direct after my sites hit the web. I wait for a couple of weeks and then start slowly building backlinks. In my opinion this looks more natural, and by the end I need less backlinks to get the no1 spot.
     
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    I think many of the recent changes are due to infrastructure changes. Google has been phasing out older server nodes to replace them with more power-efficient units and much of the weirdness could be caused by rolling rollouts and cache freezes while they mess with their hardware.
     
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    I don't understand how you guys rank low comp kws in 1 day or 1 hour. I will assume your meaning of "rank" is in Page 1 and SEO on a new webiste and not an authority website, right?

    I created 3 websites for 3 low-comp keywords (1st page all have less than 15 backlinks & poor on-page seo) and I'm still struggling to get them to Page 1 within 1 week.

    I'm a bit jealous of how you guys do it without getting penalized from Google.
     
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    What is your definition of Low Comp?
    Mine is like 2-3K EXACT or less.

    I have most definitely seen a delay too but I was never getting them ranking as fast you were.

    Interesting...Thanks.

    Con
     
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    I suggest we all just keep holding our breath until the next google update. Spoke with a rep of big G today that had this to say.

    "Google fucked up when they did the last big change....they were mainly going after placeholder sites etc but their algorithm mixed good sites up BUT still obviously leaving the placeholder, arbitrage type sites out"
     
  20. Ranko Jones

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    About the same definition.

    In hindsight I think I noticed this as far back as before xmas so maybe nothing new and antoher case of looking too much into things. I recall for our best kw at the time it dropped ranks so we were hitting it like mad with xrumer and began to presume it was gonna be dead but after 3 weeks it jumped back strong to p1.


     
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