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Is there any point to hiding a niche relevant PBN?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by zacatictac, Dec 28, 2016.

  1. zacatictac

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    Let's say I have built a PBN of old sites all related to my niche with legit content and all pretty much look like real blogs. Is there any point to hiding these from crawlers? How is anyone going to know these aren't legit if they all look real and different?
     
  2. BigLeague

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    Having them look like real blogs would require ongoing new content that might be a lot if there's a lot of sites in the pbn. Hiding the pbn does prevent unnecessary risk from competitors taking actions that might be undesirable.
     
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  3. zacatictac

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    Yeah you're right I am not really adding new content to them. I am just wondering if it's an unnecessary red flag to google. I suppose if I block the crawlers properly though they wouldn't even be able to tell.
     
  4. redrays

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    I would go ahead and block crawlers anyway. At the very least you'll show less referring domains in tools like Majestic and throw off the competition, and more likely you'll end up hiding your network from someone who would've figured out those were paid links of one flavor or another.
     
  5. asap1

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    I would still hide them from others, no need for anyone to see the links unless you want to scare them off when they check your link profile.
     
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    You hide from the crawlers but not from the search engines - correct?
     
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    Hide those where you do not link to yourself with anchors like - site.com or site.com/money-page or your main kws.
    If you link with - click here or random anchor and your site is legit its ok.
     
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    Use .Htaccess to block crawlers instead of robots.txt

    Google can't see .Htaccess
     
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    Use a variety of methods to block crawlers. .Htaccess, Spyder Spanker, etc.
     
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    Personally, I think blocking other crawlers is a red flag. But this has never been confirmed, either through Google statements or testing. Just my IMHO and observation of some PBNs that resulted in lower rankings.
     
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    You don't lose anything by hiding it but open to competitors prying eyes means you can lose everything.
     
  12. redrays

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    Yes you're correct. I've found pbn domains with noindex tags, but I wouldn't recommend doing this unless you're very experienced and know exactly what you're doing. Blocking crawlers is good enough.
     
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    I don't hide any of my PBNs. I aim for them to look natural and niche relevant. That being said I don't have a ton pointing at my sites so that may change when there are quite a few.
     
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    That is not true IMHO. In fact I am fairly certain that Google can definitely see that file as its open for bots to access in order to ask them not to crawl. All Htaccess is is a "request" that X, Y, and Z bots don't crawl. And since 99% of PBNs ask Majestic and other SEM bots not to crawl Google would be retarded not to look at this and take it into consideration when deciding if a site is a PBN.

    If a site is HIGH quality and would pass a manual review I would definitely NOT block any bots.

    -ThopHayt
     
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    As someone who has never blocked bots I am clueless, but is it not possible for Google to have bots who's ID is not known? And this crawler seeing 'okay main bot is blocked by this site for some reason'.
     
  16. zacatictac

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    If the crawler where to identify itself as hrefs or majestic crawler or MOZ then they could easily detect it blocking it which might raise a red flag. There is nothing stopping them from testing your site with the identity of another crawler.
     
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    Make sure you nofollow and noindex them as well.[​IMG]
     
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    Blocking them seems likes a huge red flag. People start blogs all the time and loose interest after a month or two. Seems incredibly natural to do that.

    Whats the risk of your competitors seeing it? Are they going to contact the webmaster at each PBN and get a link themselves? ;)
     
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