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Is there any network that pays for EVERY conversion?

Discussion in 'CPA' started by DarkPixel, Oct 9, 2011.

  1. DarkPixel

    DarkPixel Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Well here's the thing .... I am an affiliate in many networks ... And i mostly do Email Submits .... And the thing is that I know that every click has converted, but I get around 40% conversion according to the network .... And 40% is the most I had ....

    So is there any network that pays for every email submits without shaving??
     
  2. zero-day

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    If EVERY single click you send is converting(as you say) then you must be doing some sort of fraud.

    For all you know, the click may be from out of the offer's country.

    No trying to sound rude, but that's my POV.
     
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  3. DarkPixel

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    I am not doing some sort of fraud, I just know how many conversions I get cause I use my own way of tracking .... And the clicks are US only, cause i use geoip .... So I know my clicks are US clicks, and I also know the exact number of conversions ..... Besides that, my AM also knows my exact method which isn't considered fraud ....
     
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    then talk to ur am and present them with the proof of the conversions.
     
  5. chipmunk951

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    It's impossible unless all your clicks are going to the end of the offer path and fillings out things that will back out for the advertiser. That's the only way they'd pay for every single conversion.
     
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    You also have to remember that advertisers will do lead scrubbing. Even though they might be converting they may be being scrubbed as bad leads.
     
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  7. DarkPixel

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    OK, thanks guys a lot, but generally, is there any offer online that converts exactly for every lead? Maybe the mobile ones?
     
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    Like I said before, if every single one of your leads are going down the offer path every single time, then the advertiser will most likely pay for all of your leads since the quality is really high.
     
  9. EmpireQuality

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    just face the facts man, NO network is going to pay you for EVERY single conversion. that's just the truth OP...
     
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    Its shaving.

    Scrubbing and shaving are different.

    Scrubbing is like if the same lead has already been generated for that offer previously then it gets scrubbed.

    Shaving is what networks do to make extra $$$ even if the lead is legit.
     
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    Honestly, if every clicked actually converted and not scrubbed.

    I would be a millionaire




    It's usually done by EPC so if you want something better, get something with a higher EPC.
     
  12. ff1227

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    A lot of people don't realize that it's the companies as well that do the scrubbing, not just the CPA networks. Because of that, it's literally impossible to get rid of all the scrubbing. Although some networks are better than others.
     
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    Needless to say- you are the bottom of the food chain.

    Think of it sort of like this (percentages are not true)

    Total share of profits per lead= 100%
    Advertiser- Want to make max profit (60%)
    CPA Network- Want to make a decent profit (35%)
    You the Affiliate- YOU WANT IT ALL, but settle for the remaining 5%


    Just accept it that you are just a middleman.
     
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    You wish.
     
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    part of the business, get used to it
     
  16. EmpireQuality

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    exactly. very well said man. there are 4 parties involved in this equation and you (affiliate) are at the bottom of the pyramid. if you want to make REAL money then i suggest taking the hard way out and start your own CPA network or Advertising agency. if you choose not to do that, then dont cry about not getting paid from every lead because you are just one ant out of hundreds of ants (affiliate AKA employee) that the network is doing business with.