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Is there any advantage buying aged 'closed out' GD domains?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by SuperNoobInc, Mar 15, 2012.

  1. SuperNoobInc

    SuperNoobInc Regular Member

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    As stated:
    Is there any advantage buying aged 'closed out' GD domains?
    I found a couple really old closed out GD domains, something like 1996 - 1999. (15+ years old)

    Will it be a good idea to buy them, 301 them to my money site, then blast the hell out of them?
     
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    mjdr553 Newbie

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    That is a good question. I have been told that it only helps when the URL has at least one of your targeted keywords. I might be wrong. Hopefully someone in this forum might shed some more light on this subject.
     
  3. ugjunk

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    I have bought expiring domains from GD auctions and its great because the PR for the domain remains.

    Don't buy domains which have already gone out to the market for re-registration. Buy the auctions where GD owns the domain and is about to release it to the public, then you get the seniority and age of the site.
     
  4. SuperNoobInc

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    Thanks for clarifying this.
    Is 'closed out' domain part of the auction? (meaning, is it something like 'last chance deal' before going back into the public pool again?)

    or does 'closed out' means - it is already released to public?

    Thanks
     
  5. SuperNoobInc

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    Can someone please share their inputs on this? Thanks
     
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    Yes there is an advantage. Closeout auctions still retain the domain age. Only time you will have an issue, is when a domain actually drops, and is available for public registration. The closeouts are still apart of the godaddy auction process.
     
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    So is it wise to buy a 'aged expired' domain, and blast the heck out of it?

    I often read that 'aged domains' have more trust, hence, it is more 'bullet-proof' than others.
     
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    They have more trust, but they're not so useful if they haven't been indexed with Google yet. Test the domain withe "site:domain.com" to see if it is indexed.

    My first aged domain turned out to have nothing indexed with Google so it was worthless. My second one (for $25) was 9 years old, indexed in Google at least for 6 years, was a PR 2 and was still getting traffic from previous owners (and some how fit into my niche).

    I now know this find was quite good, but it was dumb luck at the time :p
     
  9. SuperNoobInc

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    Thanks.
    Does GD auction even show PR of that domain anymore?
    I dont quite see a column for it. Thx
     
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    GD does not show PR but you can use online PR checkers put the domain name and you'll be fine.

    Due some research on the PR before buying it if that's your target. Some sites spoof PR. beware
     
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    Definitely verify the PR on any sites you may have interest in. GD does indeed have a couple of gems floating around if you do your homework. Wish you the best in the hunt!!

     
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    I had a question about this as well, I just checked out a domain, it was indexed, but the godaddy sales page was the page indexed, is this a no go?
     
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    Indexed or not, an aged domain is valuable. I prefer them to not have been indexed, as this ensures there has been no shady SEO done or any penalties incurred. I only build sites on aged domains, and can tell you for a fact, regardless of them being previously indexed or not, it's beneficial.
     
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    Make sure you check PR with a PR checker that does NOT get fooled by redirects. There are 301 re-direct tricks I just learned about yesterday that can show high PR sites without being true.

    Don't think it is an option. Find a suitable aged domain and check it. Most sites (even ones for sale over $1,000) are PR N/A so you have to get lucky. I didn't even check and got extremely lucky to pick up a PR 2
     
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    So now what do you prefer, an EMD or a niche related aged random domain?
    What carries more ranking weight?
     
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    Ideally an aged EMD, or close to it. That's not always possible though.
    I'll take an aged niche related domain over a brand new EMD any day.
     
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    Yes! always check in G info:domain.com to see if there's any 301s.
    Just bought my first aged domain this week for $12, it is a 15 years old with a lot of high PR backlinks, links from bbb.org (PR9) and Yahoo directory ! very happy with it.
     
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    Thanks for the advice, would like to know a little further into this;

    How can you tell if the site has no penalties incurred if its no indexed?
    Perhaps, it is 'deindexed' because of shady SEO?

    Can you please elaborate the term 'beneficial'?
    Does it mean its easier for you to rank them, or does it mean its easier to build up high PR with them for backlinking purposes?


    I have tried to search around for them a couple of times (not intensively),
    and i find it extremely hard to buy aged EMD domains.

    This is based on EMD that contains 'reasonable searches volume per month etc." Most aged EMD i found are quite pointless, with less than 100 per month. Very unfortunate.


    Wow, seems like a rare gem you found. So lucky :)
    When you meant $12, thats excluded the other fees right? I remember purchasing one earlier from GD and it ended up like $22? Its $12 + $10 (or $8) something like that.

    So whats the PR on that domain you bought, i assume pretty high as you get backlinks from bbb and yahoo directory?

    Thanks
     
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    Well, there is no way to tell for certain, but if the site doesn't have many backlinks pointing to it, you can be pretty sure there has been no penalty. If you see thousands of blog comments, or forum profiles pointing to the domain, it's a good sign to stay away.

    I have found aged domains respond better to SEO. You can get away with more, build links faster while avoiding the sandbox/dance. That's not to say you have a free pass, because you can still get an aged domain sandboxed.

    I don't look for the domain first, I research the keyword, and then look for the domain. I have been lucky and found a couple "almost EMD" domains on Godaddy auctions. EX. bestkeyword.com or keywordx.com. These have ranked extremely well for me, and in a matter of weeks.

    If I don't hit the jackpot there, I'll head over to SEDO. Type in your keyword, and you can usually find a decent keyword rich aged domain. Some of the prices are going to be ridiculous, but I have had some luck.

    As I said before though, I'm not stuck on the EMD thing. Of my 20 or so sites, only 6 or 7 are EMD's. I do fine just finding an aged keyword rich domain, that doesn't necessarily have to be exact match.
     
  20. thedon23

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    I believe aged domains are definitely quite valuable, based on what I've read in the past. I recently bought a 7 year old domain from GoDaddy Auctions. We'll see how it works out :) It's only been a week and a half since.