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Is the boat sinking for viral websites?

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by LupusNobilis, Jan 9, 2016.

  1. LupusNobilis

    LupusNobilis Registered Member

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    Hello. A few weeks ago I read some articles about viralnova-like websites generating a lot of profit. Most of those articles were from 2014 and I was stubborn enough to start a "viral website".
    My plan was building a FB page (which I already did), creating articles and promoting them with FB Ads because building a big fan page is really hard and expensive and the reach of your posts is RIDICULOUS so FB ads would be the only way. Now, my articles are not going to be exactly like the ones from viralnova. I will add a personal touch to them that will kinda make them unique. The thing is that still, most of my content will be general viral news, etc. One example would be "5 facts you didn't know about Justin Bieber", I would promote this article with FB ads and I'll try to narrow the audience as much as I can. For example I would promote it to girls from 15 to 18 years old from US with interests like pop music, justin bieber, etc. Basically I will cover a lot of niches, not just funny stuff like viralnova has, and promote those articles only to people that I believe would be interested in reading them (another example would be "Why cats are better than dogs" and promote it to cat lovers), you got the point. I will mix all that shit up on my website and cover a lot of subjects, like politics, science, etc. I almost finished my website and invested some money as well for the design, host, etc.
    I really love how the website looks so far but recently I've read some stories about people who failed and I also read an article from ViperChill that said this train already left the station and we should instead focus on a specific niche and add viral elements to it. For example a viral site about cars where the targeted visitors would be car lovers. It obviously sounds more profitable.
    This article made me think twice about creating a website like that but I still think there's potential and I'm already too far away to stop now. But I really fear the costs of fb ads. I'm afraid I will spend too much on ads and make less money than I invested. What do you think? There is no way for me to compete with giants like viralnova, buzzfeed, etc but I can live like a king in my country with $100-200 a day. I also want to mention that my website looks very neat, clean, user friendly without annoying pop ups, or thousands of social media buttons.
    What do you think? Is anyone here running a similar website? Got any suggestions, tips, etc? Please help a fellow blackhatter out :(
     
  2. xIRaTeD

    xIRaTeD Regular Member

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    I didnt read through your whole post but yeah viral websites are sinking unless you have a lot of $$$ to invest in.
    I tried to make one 3 months ago, its not easy ranking when your up against all the other big established viral sites such as buzzfeed viralnova ebaumsworld etc.

    theres methods on making money from traffic arbitrage and i tried that but sadly adsense deducted the funds as invalid clicks... soo it just depends on your methods, and for social media traffic thats takes $$$
     
  3. Chiefjop

    Chiefjop Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Same as with all other things.. as soon as something gets big and the competition grows it's getting harder and harder to make it big unless you are able to invest a lot of money in it.
     
  4. bmminc

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    It isn't sinking..but you have to be ahead of the game. You cannot just copy/paste other viral stories..you have to be one of the first to post it.

    Want a big BIG BIG hint on how to do this? Easy. Go to reddit. Read popular threads. Create top 20 or top 30 lists or "27 reasons why" kinda thing based on the posts there.

    Do this every day, be ahead of the game, and then at some point if you are dedicated you will start to get linked to from other sites because they are too lazy to write their own content. From there just keep it up and you will grow.

    It takes time to do this...which is ironic since viral content is usually explosive.
     
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    You'll need a deep pocket to try to compete with some of the major players.
    If you can find a really targetted niche and grow it from there you might be able to sneak into the game and grow it on a budget, but don't expect it to be an overnight job.
     
  6. LupusNobilis

    LupusNobilis Registered Member

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    Thanks for your reply. I didn't even think about copying stories from viralnova. They really SUCK and most of their stories are so vague that they make me puke. I am going to write my own content and I'll use other websites like reddit, etc for inspiration. I have a big budget that I can use but I'm afraid I'll lose that money since Adsense doesn't pay that well for this kind of websites.

    What budget are we talking about here? I know I can never compete with them, it's like a local store tries to compete with Walmart, lol but as I previously said, I would be more than happy with a steady $100-200 income. I'm thinking about starting with a $50 a day invested in FB ads to see how things go. If I can double that money and make it $100, I can easily scale things up.
     
  7. nomansohail

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    All this big investment and deep pocket shit is hogwash! I once had a news website even before i became a member of bhw... I am into conspiracy and stuff and i have 3k fb friends who are like minded but guess what that didnt help me shit when i shared conspiracy related news on my wall maybe a few clicks a day i also had a fb page anyways long story short i started talking to different fb pages inthe same niche and politely asked them to share my articles i just didnt say hey can you share my articles please? I put some effort in it praising their page getting personal etc within a month or so a page named "march against monsanto" shared an article from my site which was a result of my message! Guess what? Lol i copied that article 100% from daily mail as i used to copy controvercial articles from big sites as i was noob as shit lol and it ranked on the first page even above dailmail itself! Imagine that i got over 100k visitors in a day the article was about gmo babies by the way lol ... So yeah this wasnt a stroke of luck or anything it was jus me making a lazy ass effort lol and no nothing ever dies as long as its big... Create click bait headlines that contain buzz words, make good use of facebook groups, stumble upon and reddit and you can have an amazing website earning you thousands within a year but remember dont be a fool like me nothing worth having comes quickly and thats why i am not running that site anymore... Enjoy yourself and good luck in your endevours

    Also i never invested any money in ads or anything like that, there is a better alternative than adsense, its called content.ad i started earning $5 a day by just having 1000 visitors to the site daily by sharing 3 articles a day in facebook groups and stumble upon thats all all the articles were 100% copied from big sites s
     
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  8. soulcollector

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    Design the site around reader experience and you'll see engagement rates, conversions, and even viral traffic boost up without having to go through lots of paid advertising, only some. What the big sites do best are to be your standards on which you innovate on and create your own unique twist. I suggest that you research the audience and competitors in the viral news field, find out how they tried succeed and failed at innovations, what the audience wants, and then build your solution entirely based on the audience experience. You can monetize it millions of ways, but if you are another BuzzFeed clone expect to pay $$$ to get the people to read your content, and don't expect much money for it in return.
     
  9. HeRBaR

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    From my experience, my advice for you is to grow a fan page with your ad budget, don't spend your money to get clicks / visitors to your website.

    Start a fan page that have a catchy funny name, catchy phrase, a page that you can use it to post links of your website in the future.

    I saw a video on YouTube (don't have the link) where someone was showing how he got 60k likes for less then $400 dollars and in the mean time build a custom audience too, and if you know well Facebook targeting you can get way more likes then that. (USA likes)

    After you have build your fan page everything will be easier for you, and the next most important thing you should do after this one is to build an email list even that for this kind of web sites email lists are hard to build but with a little twist you can get great results.

    Cheers
     
  10. LupusNobilis

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    Thanks for the suggestion but it's not really worth investing money to get page likes and I'll tell you why: low engagement and reach.
    Sure people can hit the like button when the ad for my page appears in their feed but that doesn't mean they give a damn about the things I post. They will most likely even forget they liked my page. I prefer to promote articles because if someone likes the article there is a chance they will hit the like button for my page to see future content which means they are genuinelly interested.
    Also, thank you everybody for your replys! It means a lot to me. :)
     
  11. MonsterMag

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    First thing:
    Don't read up on old articles about FB and viral websites. Most of the tips are outdated by now.

    You mentioned that you are doing twists to the big ones, personal touch, no popups, not so many share buttons etc. this could be a huge mistake.
    The other sites became big, so the concept has proven to be right! If they see a decline in traffic/shares/engagement, they apply changes - keep up with them.

    You have to decide if you want to make money with the viral website, or if you want to have a different/userfriendly/nice viral website and build a brand. If you want to make money, forget about being userfriendly.
     
  12. Gioware

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    Yes, train left, it is over-saturated now. Almost impossible for small sites to enter now, every source of such news gets posted or reposted on giants now.
     
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    Of course you can do it... You just need to be FAST!
     
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    I have a viral site, tough to keep traffic coming to it. Not spending any more on Facebook for a long time
     
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    Everything can be done, regardless of its saturation, but only on paper. I'd say target a niche, and decide on the age old question of money vs brand. If you're in it for the long term, invest time more than money, do it right, and build a trustworthy brand image and name. If you're in it for money only, do it quickly, focused, and forget all about pleasing the eyes.
     
  16. jmsalvador021

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    Its going to be hard now with the fb recent algo changes.