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Is running an indexer the new MUST HAVE STEP in (automated) link building?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO Tools' started by Cleverchristopher, Apr 23, 2013.

  1. Cleverchristopher

    Cleverchristopher Registered Member

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    One more thing to add to our ever growing pile of subscriptions and licenses...
    Captcha, proxies, cleaners, spinners, articles, and now indexing...

    For the average "Joe" is this a MUST HAVE STEP? or NOT?

    There are at least a dozen new services that have hit the market over the last 12-18 months.
    Anyone had any success / failure with any of these?

    Backlink Energizer http://backlink-energizer.com/
    Backlinks Indexer http://backlinksindexer.com/
    Indexbear http://www.indexbear.com/
    Indexification http://www.indexification.com/
    IndexU http://www.nicecoder.com/
    Lindexed.com http://lindexed.com/
    Linklicious http://linklicious.me/
    Linkpipeline http://linkpipeline.com/
    Nuclear Link Indexer http://www.nuclear-link-indexer.com/
    SEO PhD http://seo-phd.com/
    Warrior Backlink Indexer http://warriorbacklinkindexer.com/
    Xindexer http://xindexer.com/
    Thoughts?
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  2. Cleverchristopher

    Cleverchristopher Registered Member

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    I have tag-along question...

    What are some good pointers to create a thread that doesn't drop off the first page in ten minutes?

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  3. mikpel

    mikpel Regular Member

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    Good question and it really deserves some attention. People either don't know enough to answer this question or just don't mind at all about indexing their links. I've only tried Power Indexer Pro but didn't have much luck with that one.
     
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    Maybe one reason of the lack of answers is the fact that is a little strange for a user that provide a indexing service to ask this question, second maybe is the way you ask it, like you don't have a clue of what is going on.... but this is only my impression.

    And the answer to your question is:

    I don't know about the average "Joe" but for me is no a must have since because of my strategy I like to let G discover the backlinks naturally and run a indexing strategy for those that have more value but I do this by building tire 2 links to those links.

    Second I didn't use any of the above service or I don't remember but the few tests that I have done with indexing bring me to the conclusion that doesn't worth the effort/resources. But as I said there was only a few tests.

    Thank you
     
  5. Designer1

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    Indexers are useful to get more backlinks indexed, as not all bot-created web2.0 profile backlinks get indexed naturally.
    I won't use them to get my backlinks indexed instantaneously. I usually wait a couple of week after the blast to use indexer.
     
  6. cody41

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    Sigh, you must think us stupid..no really. Why would you, a service provider offering up seo phd which IS an indexing service, pose that question to the forum when assumingly you've already done your due diligence in assessing the marketplace to determine whether it was viable to offer another paid service to the masses? Sometimes I don't get it..

    Oh, btw, indexu is a link directory program..not an indexing service. It's for webmasters who have an interest in hosting directory sites to put their own up.

    Next time, give full disclosure to the group about your paid service before backhanding the "unpaid" advertisement

    To give some context to the original question, no, indexing services are NOT a requirement for modern day seo as much as service providers like to force feed everyone. Do yourselves all a favor and get a bcaklink checking program Insypyder's link checker and proactively monitor your backlinking efforts. You may find all you need to do is tier 2 up your backlinks and blast them out to get indexed up.



     
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  7. jr_sci

    jr_sci Senior Member

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    I don't see any harm when the OP is not advertising anything. Think about it, why should he post his competitor's services? It's just a general question and I think, Indexing is a vital part of SEO.

    70% of the links built artificially (web 2.0, social networks, social bookmarks, articles) won't get indexed until and unless you send a 2nd tier. Not everyone has the time to build 2nd tiers. Indexing services is a great way to save 70% of your time, energy and money from getting wasted.

    If someone is worried about indexing too many links at once, he should be drip feeding them
     
  8. cool.dude123

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    only had experience with 3 of the ones you listed, Linklicious, lindexed and indexification. they all worked well for me, getting most of my links indexed and all of them crawled. so far indexification has been the best for me, it allows drip feeding of the links up to 30 days, the reports are great and nothing beats its price.

    it isn't a requirement in SEO because you can still easily blast your backlinks with more tiers to get them crawled and indexed but it does make life a bit easier and quicker.
     
  9. SEO_Alchemy

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    Indexing only matters for your best high quality good content links. Leave the others alone. Some will get indexed others wont. Just send a few pings for crawl, or use link crawling service, that's it. Forcing 1000's of links into the google index is a stupid and dangerous tactic these days. A non indexed link doesn't mean google doesn't know it exists or that it doesn't count. Instead of being in the searchable cache, it's just couinted as a numeric value. i.e site yoursite.com has 546 of link type a, 432 of link type b, 8945 of link type c, with such and such ratios of anchors, and such and such ratios of noFolllow, doF0llow, etc....
     
  10. bkshock

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    For lots of links, I just use a python script I wrote. It takes a list of urls, crawls them to get titles/meta desc (uses a standard desc if there is no meta) then builds out an RSS, uploads it via FTP, and uses XMLRPC to send a ping to pingomatic. Pages are indexed in under a minute usually.

    Edit: You can find it on github, it's called PyRSSFeeder. The version on there needs to be updated. You'll need python + scrapy + pyrss2gen
     
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  11. twilightofidols

    twilightofidols Power Member

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    No it's not necessary at all though it has it's place in SEO, and I would discourage attempting to index every link especially all at once.
     
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    Scrapebox does the same thing bud, except the ftp upload to a hosting site... this method has been around for years.
     
  13. bkshock

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    From now on, I'll make sure to preface anything I write with "THIS IS NOT A NEW METHOD" just for you.
     
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    Not only is it not new, its not effective either. Using RSS feeds and pinging them is not going to get your links indexed within minutes as you claim. Blog pages maybe, profiles/bookmarks/lower quality Web 2.0's, not really. You're looking at low percentage index success. It used to work, not so much anymore...... Perhaps you should add "THIS DOESN'T EVEN WORK" to your preface also.
     
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  15. bkshock

    bkshock Newbie

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    Yeah, I can totally see how you'd think I was claiming "profiles/bookmarks". There are words that use the same letters in my post, that's true.
     
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    When people are having trouble indexing links, these are the usual culprits. If you're talking about indexing higher quality content, guess what, it would get indexed without you going through the entire RSS operation. You might be speeding up the crawl rate, nothing more. That's not what the OP was asking, and that's not what this thread is about.
     
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    Not indexing your backlinks? Not building links to your backlinks? What the hell are you people talking about!

    There is always a point in getting your back links indexed and there is most definitely many reasons I can say that you should back link your backlinks...

    Tutututut... Sighs in disappointment
     
  18. bkshock

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    Trouble indexing links? What this thread is about? What the OP was asking? He only asked if indexing services were necessary, and I shared a method I use. But thanks for the lecture. Will make sure to avoid you in the future.
     
  19. SEO_Alchemy

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    Depends on the links friend. High quality good content, absolutely. Index and tier. Jamming 1000's of spammy links into the index is playing with fire.
     
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    SEO_Alchemy Senior Member

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    No one is lecturing. This is a discussion. I was merely pointing out that the method you shared has been around for quite a while and is really not all that effective for indexing the sorts of links that people here are usually concerned about indexing. That's it. No hard feelings. This forum is all about discussing what works and what doesn't so that all may benefit.

    Cheers.