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Is running a streaming tv site risky if its being hosted in the us?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by Dev-Gank, Aug 19, 2008.

  1. Dev-Gank

    Dev-Gank Regular Member

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    I have started to create a streaming tv website where users can watch TV shows for free for filling out a quick CPA survey. so far its converting very well and I know im not hosting anything, simply embedding from megavideo etc.

    I know tons of people operate these, so worst case I could get a cease and decist or takedown notice or could it be more severe if anyone actually decided to care.
     
  2. bhnoobz

    bhnoobz BANNED BANNED

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    Worst case is you get sued by MPAA: FOX / NBC / ABC , et al. Embedding the clip is not as bad, I would talk to an intellectual property attorney that specializes in digital copyrights... :)
     
  3. Dev-Gank

    Dev-Gank Regular Member

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    Thanks. Im not trying to get into legal trouble this site is just a learning experience.
     
  4. flyingspaghettitroll

    flyingspaghettitroll Newbie

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    I am by no means an expert. I'm replying for shits and giggles here. That being said, I would think the issue would be with the cable/satellite provider. If you aren't filtering out the ads, then the networks are just getting their advertisers exposure to people who may not normally pay to view the network. Speaking on the dangerous side, get a T1 line hooked in to the backbone. At least that way you'll get a touch more privacy. Maybe host the servers in some European country with insanely lax laws about that sort of thing?
     
  5. bhnoobz

    bhnoobz BANNED BANNED

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    The shows on tv are copyrighted. The owners of the copyrights = the network. The network = NBC / CBS / FOX / ETC ....... You republish their copyrighted material, they will more than likely sue you. I was sued, it was fucking lame. 50k down the drain.... You live, you learn.
     
  6. flyingspaghettitroll

    flyingspaghettitroll Newbie

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    50k? Greedy bastards. They make a killing on advertisement alone. *sigh* the more I look around the more I find being horribly rich seems to correspond with sociopathy. With exceptions, of course.
     
  7. bhnoobz

    bhnoobz BANNED BANNED

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    that was a settlement.. if i had decided to take it to civil trial, they were going to seek 150k per infringing item.. no fun.
     
  8. flyingspaghettitroll

    flyingspaghettitroll Newbie

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    I'm surprised they even took you for that. Did you ignore their cease and desist? or even get one? For 50k I would think some kinds of people would be content with putting a price on their lawyer's head.
     
  9. Dev-Gank

    Dev-Gank Regular Member

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    Ya I would assume you would at least get a cease and decist or take down notice first.

    Im wondering if I should not be in the streaming tv niche lol.
     
  10. blazed

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    I think you can make your site DMCA compliant if you create a system where people can submit requests to get their copyrighted material taken down.
     
  11. moneykz

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    I have experience with these types of sites and what will happen is MPAA will send a take down notice to your hosting.

    Then your hosting company will ask you to leave.

    If you go offshore then the hosting company will ask you to take down the links that are in question from the MPAA.

    Either way its a pain in the a..
     
  12. Dev-Gank

    Dev-Gank Regular Member

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    Alright. Well I can deal with that for now.

    This is just my first niche website and I am still experimenting with traffic methods etc, until I move onto my legit niches.

    I am thinking about selling the site soon as Im getting alot of return traffic and organic search traffic.

    Im making like 10+ a day, so I think I may be able to get a little bit for it.
     
  13. metalan1

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    Yea it can be bad.

    However, if you do not host the shows/movies you are fine. I might buy your site, pm me a price..

    Cheers.
     
  14. Dev-Gank

    Dev-Gank Regular Member

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    Yep I actually do not host the videos at all, but it is very easy to keep them up to date. Ill pm you.
     
  15. iulianh

    iulianh Regular Member

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    I had around 50 websites with streaming tv shows, my hosting account got suspended after 4 months after they have received an complaint from an company that produces and owns some of the tv shows .

    This niche is profitable but risky to loose everything quick .