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Is page rank transferable?

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by micktastic, Aug 11, 2010.

  1. micktastic

    micktastic Newbie

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    Hi All,

    So this may be a silly question but if I have/buy a domain that already has a pr then create a 302 redirect to another page/site, will that pr be applied to the new page/site? Or would I be better off creating a page/site on the domain that has the pr (to try and preserve its rank) and simply linking to the other page/site?

    The latter seems more likely but the former would be awesome ;)


    Thanks guys
     
  2. littleg2008

    littleg2008 Senior Member

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    But just be careful about buying domains that have nice pagerank. In my experience alot of these domains drop to PR1 or PR0 or even PR - at the enxt update.

    So just be careful about buying these. I would always recommend starting from scratch. You can get to PR 3 in around 3 weeks. Then it starts to require more work.

    Something that not many people know is PAGE RANK UPDATES EVERYDAY on your site. Its just only rarely the value updates on the systems. and seo tools etc
     
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  3. GreyWolf

    GreyWolf Executive VIP Jr. VIP

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    This should probably be clarified a little bit so it doesn't create confusion for the newbies to PR.

    What littleg2008 means is that the algorithms aren't giving weight based on the posted PR value of a site. The posted PR is just a number representing the Page Rank of your site on the day Google did the last PR update. PR updates are done about 3 or 4 times a year. When you look up the PR value of a site that's all that your seeing.

    The actual PR value that the algorithms use are close to real time values based on the overall interlinking of pages on the internet as their crawlers find the links. This is a fairly constant ongoing calculation done by google to determine where to place all the pages in their indexes.


    Note -
    It's possible to use BH methods to cause short term manipulation of a pages PR, if this is done right around the time the PR values are updated then you could cause a site to show a high PR when in reality it isn't one. This is why littleg2008 mentions to be careful when buying websites with high PR. Before buying a site based on PR it's a good idea to really check out the sites backlinks to see if the PR of the site looks reasonably accurate. Even then it can be hard to tell for a lot of people. There are tools that can estimate the actual current PR of a page, but their accuracy is debatable.

    (The same advice holds true if your purchasing based on projected earnings, really look closely at the sales history because it's possible for people that know what they're doing to fake the sales data.)

    FYI - Most people know this, but here's a little trivia for the newbies to PR. The 'Page' in Page Rank has nothing to do with the word 'page'. It's in reference to Larry Page, the co-creator of the Page Rank algorithm. (and since Page is a person's name it should always be capitalized.)


    edit - Also as M.A.D. says, using a 302 redirect won't accomplish what your wanting. You need to use a 301 redirect. IF you set it up correctly then yes the PR should transfer to the site the 301 is pointing too.
     
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  4. littleg2008

    littleg2008 Senior Member

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    Thanks GreyWolf.

    I re-read what i posted and yes it was confusing, your explanation is much clearer.

    Thanks
     
  5. sousen

    sousen Junior Member

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    No page rank is not transfarable by any redirected way
     
  6. littleg2008

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    I believe it is - otherwise why would we be clambering to get a link on a PR 9 webpage.

    A redirect is very similar to URL link. Its just how it forwards to the URL itself.

    As the above person mentioned about the different 30- redirects out there
     
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  7. GreyWolf

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    I guess technically your correct, a 301 redirect does not transfer the actual PR of one site to another. What it does is cause all the link juice being passed from existing backlinks to the old site to be redirected to the new site. The end result is that all the backlinking factors that contributed to the PR of the old site will be redirected to the new site. The 301 redirect will cause the PR calculations of the new site to include all the backlinks pointing to the old site.

    As long as the redirect is done correctly the end result has the same effect as if you actually were transfering the PR of the old site to the new site. There is of course some loss that will occur, how much is based on many factors google implemented to prevent using redirects to manipulate the PR system.
     
  8. micktastic

    micktastic Newbie

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    Very interesting (and potentially profitable ;) ) stuff! Corrected quite a few misconceptions I had. As usual BHW members go above and beyond :)