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Is making a Porn Tube website profitable ?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by NX_NULL, Jul 15, 2009.

  1. NX_NULL

    NX_NULL Regular Member Premium Member

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    Whats your idea about a porntube website ? :D

    I think it spend a hell of bandwidth a day

    do you think it is profitable nowadays ?
     
  2. eaglefest

    eaglefest Newbie

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    I've tried a porntube site in the past.. but it didnt realy take off.

    You need to offer your visitors clips they wont find elsewhere. So custom made stuff... and create a community of ppl with the same interest.

    I do think if you'r in a niche with a good businessmodel, you still can make money.
     
  3. eaglefest

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    I've tried a porntube site in the past.. but it didnt realy take off.

    You need to offer your visitors clips they wont find elsewhere. So custom made stuff... and create a community of ppl with the same interest.

    I do think if you'r in a niche with a good businessmodel, you still can make money.
     
  4. cheezycheez

    cheezycheez Junior Member

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    would it be legal to post videos of those people being rape.
    not a real rape but just a drama?

    got some videos. ive download it somewhere with no watermarks..
     
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  5. heiny

    heiny Regular Member

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    Errr..Never use copyright material unless your domain pornhub or porntube or whatever they're called - the real f'ing big ones. Since they'll just get contacted by the studio's lawyer and told to put it off or make it a "paid" video - whatever they feel like. Otherwise, you'll stand with a couple of civil lawsuits.

    If its profitable? Certainly could be. Can you pay for the traffic of cheap users who doesn't want to spend (that's why they come on it to get a "Free" wank) money on porn? How will you monetize on the traffic that you get? How will you drive traffic to your website? How will you make it different from all the other big players

    Answer those and you may just be able to start off your site

    PS. recommended host would be something like choopa.com :)

    Good luck
     
  6. eaglefest

    eaglefest Newbie

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    Sorry guys/girls for my dupe replys.. there's something with the site.. cant remove the dupe post.

    Anyways as for Cheezycheez question, posting " rape " clips... so the fake ones: there's a lot of those clips on porntubesites... notice the description on those clips... there's always the names of the pornstars.. and also on the setting and acting, you know its fake.

    But still be carefull if you dont realy sure or dont know the origin of the clip....
     
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  7. NX_NULL

    NX_NULL Regular Member Premium Member

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    Can they sue me ?
    because i would claim that users have uploaded the movies

    for example in pornhub they have this page about copy right violation
    http://www.pornhub.com/dmca

    and as you can see they have list lots of thing that need to be prepared for removing a video
     
  8. heiny

    heiny Regular Member

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    Most likely they'll just tell you to take off the video from your website.

    As a big porn company like Vivid and they saw too many of their movies up on YOUR website and your website is HOSTED in US they could most likely do you over for copyright infringements.
    They can easily do a civil lawsuit and if you don't show up in court, they get a default judgement.

    If you really want to avoid the trouble of getting slapped about by Goliath (you're David in this case) get offshore hosting that allows porn and don't give a shit about US laws :)
     
  9. royalmice

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    I guess it is profitable for the people starring in the video's, on the other hand I am not so sure about the online value, as i know all the horny guys out there only try and find the free views, or previews and dont sign up.

    then again i wont know....
     
  10. OldMadHatter

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    my 2.5c - youtube had a hardtime monetizing. you might not be able to find a buyer for it later and sure thing it will take a while to build up.
    free porn seekers (or as #8 put it blantly, w**kers) are poor at converting CPA offers and advertisers know it. there are more direct ways of monetizing traffic and avoiding headaches.
    last, if you plan to let users upload, that requires big number crunching. there might be a Java application out there that allows your users to convert file to .flv locally indpendent of their OS and then upload to your server (hint hint), but otherwise your encoding backlog would start building up like in early youtube days.

    ref. copyright infringement, blaming users for uploads as long as you host in US is short-lived - the other party can get you served with a request to provide logs (or even worse, serve your provider), and before you know it they'd have a case if you were behind it. tread carefully there, sharks are lurking.

    I am doing something vaguelly similar already, drop me a PM if you have questions.
     
  11. NX_NULL

    NX_NULL Regular Member Premium Member

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    Ok I listed some of famous porn tube websites
    Most of big and high traffic porn tube websites are in US
    How do they deal with copy right materials ?
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    youporn.com   Texas
    pornhub.com   Massachusetts 
    porntube.com  Florida 
    redtube.com   New Jersey
    jizzhut.com     Washington 
    
    
    livesex.com    Budapest 
    tnaflix.com      Noord-holland
    spankwire.com Noord-holland
     
  12. spamgic

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    i have plans on the tube stuff, but their are already hundreds out there. if you are afraid of bandwidth bills, get sponsors and at the same time you're safe from copyright. I believe particular niches would do better than general porn. Some sponsors would let their webmasters mix their program with other sponsors. something like tubesites + dating sponsors :D
     
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    If you can make it popular, then yes its very profitable. Maybe add some type of premium content blocker or membership and make mad bank
     
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  15. heiny

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    You need to look at where their companies are respectively registered at. I know for a fact that Redtube owners are sitting in Hong Kong banking hard. Their servers are in the US, so yes the porn studios could get them done. HOWEVER, if you noticed, most of them offer membership. This membership fee could in turn be to pay off the studios in which return could provide them with "premium" clips. Studios want to make money too, but it's the new and the very few that will offer totally "free" hosting of copyrighted material. Tube8 is like a search engine for free porn, so yes, it can be profitable.

    Anyway...Im sure when you become big enough you would be approached by studios too to either shut down or make a membership section that would be profitable for them. The porn industry isn't like the movie industry I believe...More laxed.
     
  16. matsta

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    You will find that http servers (frontend) are all based in America but usually the file hosting servers will actually be in europe or asia or somewhere offshore. Offshore servers will be expensive to rent so what the companies will do is upload the video to a US server, convert it and send it to the offshore servers (they will all be running on 1gbps port so no shortage of speed) but that will best way to save yourself from having copyright issues in the future.

    For revenue, you can do premium accounts but the best way would to find a video company who wants to advertise and get commission off every sale. But the great thing about that would be that they would upload the videos so the site would really be on autopilot which would be cool.

    Also guys put iframes/Cookie stuff and what not on to make extra moola. Thats where alot of the paid, cheap traffic comes from.

    All in all if you know what your doing, dive into it!