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Is it worth the hassle to scrape/search for aged/expired domains?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by bokeboke, Jan 17, 2015.

  1. bokeboke

    bokeboke Junior Member

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    I'm looking to set up a PBN and as a result have been going thru most PBN related threads here on BHW. I found some decent methods for searching for expired/aged domains (using expiredomains.net , using scrapebox with Xenu Link Sleuth ). But I'm wondering if in 2015 there are domains left that haven't been snatched up. If I put the effort in can I find decent domains or should I just look for them in the marketplace or at auctions?
     
  2. TBSdomains

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    Absolutely no. Using expired domains is useless as these domains are often spammy and lack of any authorized PR backlinks. To get real SEO results you need domains with real SEO value, such domains cannot be found for reg-fee :)
     
  3. hashminer

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    I register expired domains with high authoritive back links all the time. Using pr pa or da when researching the domains is almost pointless.

    If you start your search in the tech or news niche you can easily find some great ones quickly. You have to look at the back link profile manually and also make sure it was not picked up by a spammer by using web archive. I also use tf and cf but always look at the backlink profile as tf cf is not always accurate.

    Searching is the hardest part and if you use xenu you'll probably get discourage before you find anything of value.
     
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  4. seotalisman

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    Only if you have the resources to run large scale scrapes.
     
  5. hashminer

    hashminer Newbie

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    What do you consider a large scale scrape?

    I have found large scale scrapes are definitely not needed unless you are looking for 10,000's + domains.
     
  6. Aty

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    Plenty of domains left for everyone. Question is do you have the time and patience to search for them.
     
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    To find quality expired domains you need to know where to look for the source of your seed list / seed URL.

    It?s mostly useless checking expired domains*net as millions are doing the same.

    Depending on your budget you can find quality expired domains at good price, just check the market place, there are many offers around.


    Hope that helps?
    Cheers
    Dan
     
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    Little bit off topic, but recently I read a lot comments saying "pbn are dead", "pbn not worth to set up anymore", "pbn not strong enough anymore" blablabla...

    any of that is true? or does it still work great?
     
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    Its not worth at all. Just buy domains from good sellers. Scraping, finding and checking metrics is a big hassle
     
  10. Tilko

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    I have to agree with this.
    It will take you a lot of time and it's really not worth it...
    Buy your desired amount of domains from a trusted seller on this forum
     
  11. rogerke

    rogerke Regular Member

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    Absolutely not true at all. If you know how to *properly* search for expired domains you can easily find $x,xxx-$xx,xxx worth of domains every day. They're not actually worth that price, but it's based on the ridiculously inflated prices domain sellers ask. So unless your opportunity cost (searching for these domains instead of doing your normal job) is higher than that, it's definitely not worth buying domains from third party sellers. Heck, I've seen those list of the sellers here and even the $100-$500 domains are utter crap 99,99% the time.

    With the risk of sounding arrogant; anybody disagreeing has absolutely no clue about finding and researching expired domains.
     
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  12. hashminer

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    Spot on. I can only think of three reasons why people would disagree:
    1. They made an attempt using a bad method and it didn't work work for them so they think it doesn't work for anyone.
    2. They are making a killing with expired domains and dont want the competition.
    3. They have no idea what they are talking about and are probably repeating something they saw someone else say.

    90% of finding expired domains can be automated, the only non automated part is manually checking backlinks, webarchive etc...
    And if your not checking these things manually when buying from a "trusted seller" your just asking to get burned.
     
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  13. Asif WILSON Khan

    Asif WILSON Khan Executive VIP Jr. VIP

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    OP, everything in IM is a trade off between time and money. If you don't have the time or it can be better spent doing other things, then just pay for somebody to acquire domains for you.
    Having said that, there are still quality domains to be found every day.
     
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    I made a bot to check expired domains with good PA, PR and links and couldn't register any good one, the good domains are bought at the same second they get free, not possible for humans :)
     
  15. hashminer

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    So you made a bot to only check PA and PR for expired domains?

    PA DA and PR are almost totally useless when checking expired domains.
    These metrics are almost never right when a domain has been expired for an amount of time.

    Its the backlink profile that's important. Its very possible to find domains that have been expired for 5 years and still have some huge authoritative backlinks in place from some very high *cough* PR pages.
     
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    What is your method of searching expired domains?
     
  17. domainingin

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    Looking on that metrics you will never find any good expired domain!
    Checking your backlinks, history and anchors is the most important part of evaluating domains.
    The only metric, which can help to filter domains you want to check manually is the Majestic CF / TF ratio, representing the trust rank of a domain and hard to manipulate.

    Cheers
    Dan
     
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    gman2489 Newbie

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    Of course there are domains to find, thousands are being dropped each day!

    RE what W130SN said: I normally weigh up the time involved and ask the question is it worth spending time on?
    In my case no. I would prefer to save the time and effort of running domains through a check list, which sometimes need paid tools anyways, and buy through a pre-screened service.

    It all depends on how you value your time, like most things in seo.
     
  19. diegokarzai

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    It might be worth it depending upon your purposes.
     
  20. mikey9991

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    I found two domains with no PR but DA 15 PA 28 with one or two links from a popular new site.

    Is this worth it? I bough it already but I just want some opinions. I didn't check the trust flow - forgot to so that part.