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Is it worth spending $280 on 3 month old EMD .net domain?

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  1. SkeetMads

    SkeetMads Registered Member

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    Hi everybody.
    First of all, i apologize if this is in the wrong section - it seemed to me like it fits the best in this section!

    I have a keyword with 49500 monthly exact global and local searches, but i'm missing a domain.

    I'd prefer it to be an EMD domain to have better odds against beating the competing pages, and the only one available is a .net domain that i can buy for $280, which is 3 months old, PR1 and has about 3k backlinks.

    I'm very uncertain if i should buy it or not. It's not exactly like i have a massive budget, so if i throw that amount of money at domain, i will have less money for linkbuilding services etc.

    So i have a couple of questions for everybody:

    How important is an EMD really? And would it be worth buying the .net domain?

    How should i approach having a WordPress site only targeting a single keyword? Of course i want alot of unique quality content, so am i supposed to just buy xx amount of articles, all around the same keyword?

    Is manual PR6+ comments worth anything? Because i have been thinking about continuously scraping URL's with Scrapebox to find high PR blogs and then manually posting comments on them, but i'm not sure if blog comments still are "quality backlinks"

    That's all i can think of right now!

    Cheers!
     
  2. TermsB

    TermsB Senior Member

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    I would ask myself three questions if I were you:

    1 - Is it worth $280 to you, to not find a new niche?
    2 - Are you willing to spend $280 knowing that the EMD .com is already taken?
    3 - Will I be able to compete within the highest ranked pages in both quality and SEO?
     
  3. jethro

    jethro Regular Member

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    Have you analyzed SEO Competition for that niche? What's the AdWords CPC and SEO Value?

    You need to know this to choose!
     
  4. jon_xx_x

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    I would spend it. Though EMDs value have dropped quite a bit, for $280 that's still a good deal. I would check the backlinks though and make sure they are decent. Don't want to get sandboxed or have a bunch of terrible links coming in, imo.
    For what its' worth, I have over 200 EMDs.
    Though I thikn EMDs value has dropped, I still have EMDs that get into the top 10 with no links in. I have on in the top 10 right now that gets 90k exacts per month.
     
  5. SkeetMads

    SkeetMads Registered Member

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    Yes, i have analyzed the competition, and i should be able to get a top 3 spot with some on site SEO and linkbuilding.
    The currency in my copy of Marketing Samurai is not in dollars, so i don't have the exact SEO value, but it's about 26.000.
     
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    EMD is not really mandatory to rank for a keyword. If you analyzed the keyword competition properly and pretty confident in ranking, just buy a non-EMD with a word added in front or at the end of the root keyword. You can spend those $280 for content and SEO.
     
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    Sounds a lot to me personally - I'm ranking no1 for my keyword with my main site and that is not EMD.
     
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    If you have a way to monetize it and can make $30-$50/mo in 3-4 months - I'd go for it!
    If the .org is available - grab it instead!
     
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    Agreed. Just add an "e" in front of the EMD. Saves you a ton of money and it works pretty well, especially if the competition is weak for that keyword.
     
  10. SkeetMads

    SkeetMads Registered Member

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    Alright, so i have decided to get a "the"+EMD domain.

    How about the other questions about manual high PR blog comments and having a site about 1 keyword only? Can anybody help me out there?
     
  11. dirtbag

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    Depends on the profit potential in my opinion. For a PR1 EMD with that many searches I say $280 is an acceptable expense. Depends what you think you can make off it. I've sold a lot of PR domains in that range before that weren't even keyword based.
     
  12. dejanlesi

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    Well i have to say that i still see EMDs ranking great without much work! And from the numbers you were talking about, if it is a product domain, then your investment would be safe even if you would not develop the domain..

    By developing and making it earn money, you would just add value to the value that the domain already has :)
     
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    Save the money! Don't know why people think EMDs are needed. As long as you have the keyword in the url somewhere it will rank just as well as and EMD.
     
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    Msg me the EMD, I'll buy it and make you regret not spending it :p
     
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    I also value EMD's - over 90% of my >300 domains / websites are EMD's and many (that I had time to work on) are on 1st or 2nd page of g.

    Mind you - I've spread myself too thin, but that's a different story...
     
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    Same. I have most ranked, but I still want to build more incoming links to the sites and more value. There was a service in the BST section for a link builder for $350 per month. I've been debating hiring the service. A little expensive, but it's all manual, and I think he said they do around 30 links per day. So if I alternated sites every couple days it would probably pay for itself in no time.
     
  17. SkeetMads

    SkeetMads Registered Member

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    Alright, how should i approach having a WordPress site only targeting a single keyword? Of course i want alot of unique quality content, but am i supposed to just buy xx amount of articles, all around the same keyword?

    Are manual PR6+ comments worth anything? Because i have been thinking about continuously scraping URL's with Scrapebox to find high PR blogs and then manually posting comments on them, but i'm not sure if blog comments still are "quality backlinks"
     
  18. healzer

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    EMDs are helpful, but worthless at the same time
     
  19. plex_brahial

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    An established domain is definetly worth it, EMD will help your ass.
    280$ are money that you will anyway spend on seo services to get good 3k backlinks and a PR 1.
    Plus in my opinion an old domain will rank way faster then a new one. for a keyword that has 50k searches the competition cant be easy so getting into it aint going to be cheap with a new domain.
    Its worth it but there is a risk, if you dont have an income from other sites and cant take the risk then start smaller!
     
  20. macdonjo3

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    If it's not a brand then sure it could be worth that. It depends how important that keyword is to you.