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Is it worth it to rank 2 pages: "Best HD television" and "Best HD televisions"?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Ezreal, May 9, 2016.

  1. Ezreal

    Ezreal Registered Member

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    The KW's are just an example, but im referring to the extra S at the end.

    Is it worth it to have "Best HD television" as the homepage, and "Best HD televisions" as another page (of course no duplicate content).

    Or would it be better to go for the best LSI for Best HD television IE. Best High definition television? Or do all 3?
     
  2. J-S-T

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    2nd Option Sounds Good.
     
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    It's better to go for "Best HD Televisions" because it also contained in the keyword "Best HD Television" and you could rank for both.
     
  4. Ezreal

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    If time/effort/budget, wouldn't be an issue would you recommend all 3?

    in my situation:

    Main KW: best hd television = 5000 searches
    Best hd televisions = 1500 searches
    Best high definition television = 400 searches

    Im just wondering if the "s" should just be attached to the main KW so it ranks for both (i can be wrong here!). Or wouldn't Best HD television rank optimal if it got changed to Best HD televisions?
     
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    If you don't have any duplicate content means no problem in pages.
    You can use LSI keywords because television will have the broad search.
     
  6. Ezreal

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    Ye the main KW "best HD television" on homepage will be the standard 2500+ buyers guide tekst with 5 250 word short reviews

    was thinking of the second page "The best HD televisions of 2016" which will be the 2500 page with five 500 word reviews below each other (non duplicate of the home, just rewritten).

    Just had to get a quick confirm before i started writing, actually never gotten a main KW before that had so many extra searches on adding an "s" lol.

    Ty for the input guys
     
  7. michaelr1988

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    Just include all those keywords into 1 article.

    Title- best hd televisions of 2016
    h1 - top rated high definition TVs
    h2 - benefits of HD
    h3 - Buying guide - what to look for

    Google knows these words are all related. You don't need to create new pages for each keyword anymore. Use words like top picks, HD TV ratings, best rated, top rated, top, good, best for blahblah, best under $xxxx.

    Compile the above into one single, large article. Things like best under $xxxx can have its own page as well as bein a small snippet about it on the main, as long as they are unique. You can have two listings appear in the search engines by doing that sometimes.

    Individual reviews I prefer to be separate pages.
     
  8. xplosiv

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    Agreed with the above poster. Panda was made specifically to target idiotic ideas like creating a unique page for a plural version. Not to mention, you might run into some serious keyword cannibalization doing that and not rank highly for either term.
     
  9. Ezreal

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    @xplosiv

    Thats not completely true tho, Panda doesn't attack pages that are unique. Like i mentioned about its just the focus keyword that differs with the attaching an S at the end. There will be 0 duplicate content on the page itself.

    One will simply have "How to find the best HD television buyers guide" content directly on the homepage, the other will be the standard top 5 or 10 short reviews page "Best HD televisions of 2016".

    This has nothing to do with Panda as far as I know.

    @michaelr1988

    I always do both, 1 large article with short reviews of multiple items, usually the best of ... post where each short review has a "read full review" which goes to the full review page of that product which is about 750-1000 words normally for me. The short review is not duplicate content from the main review. Thats the only important thing.
     
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  10. Ste Fishkin

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    I wouldn't bother ranking for any of those now you have given the niche away...
     
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    Vote for Second option. I'd love to hear some more seasoned opinions with data to back them up.

    Also, google the keywords and see if you get auto-corrected results. Sometimes that's a factor in the decision making. Usually just with mis-spellings, but I've seen it in other cases as well.
     
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  13. Ezreal

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    It was an example, thats not my niche ;).
     
  14. Ezreal

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    Ty for the input guys really appreciate it as in my opinion this is going to be the second most important page on my web. Weird how i never ran into this situation before with the extra S.

    For those who say go for the second option,

    Would you recommend changing the homepage main keyword from "best hd television" (5000 searches) to "best hd televisions" (1500 searches)? Cuz if i understand it correctly most of you believe that Google will merge the keywords making "Best hd televisions" a total of 7500 searches.

    Correct me if im wrong here :p
     
  15. Ezreal

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    That would have made it a lot easier to decide ye :p But unfortunately thats not the case here. And ye seasoned opinions (or ones who actually tried both and can give a little case study) would be amazing! Not that i do not appreciate the rest of you guys of course! Remains a big learning journey for all of us, even the seasoned ones.
     
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    Nope nope nope. Not worth the time and effort. Time to switch your keywords op.
     
  17. Shield One

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    well go ahead OP it works

     
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    From experience Google is smart enough to rank a same page for both singular and plural keywords.
    I would just go for the LSI keyword for the other page.
     
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    I would rank all those mentioned examples on one page.

    They are very closely related. Focus on the highest trafficked one and you will rank naturally for others if your on-page is solid.
     
  20. Ezreal

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    Thanks of the input guys, saved me a lot of work later on as i was planning to do the first option if you all didn't share your knowledge.