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Is it safe to create Nofollow links from your Blackhat sites to your Whitehat sites?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by ragnarkar, Aug 19, 2015.

  1. ragnarkar

    ragnarkar Registered Member

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    This is my first post but I've been lurking here for a while. Anyways, I'm wondering if it's safe to use Nofollow links on sites you've ranked using Blackhat techniques to drive traffic to another site that's completely Whitehat (so far)? As far as I understand, the worst thing that could happen if you use Blackhat SEO (assuming you don't do anything illegal) is that your site will be banned from Google or even all of the search engines. But even if it's banned, your site will still be there. So Google bans your site, but you give your site's link to your friend - he can still visit your site. Or you create a Youtube video with a link to your site at the bottom, you'll still get traffic from there. Or heck, you put your URL on a bumper sticker on your car. Essentially, from what I understand, NOFOLLOW links are like the links on your bumper sticker.

    So I'm considering a proposal for building an authority site. The main site will be built using Whitehat SEO and my best content will go onto the Whitehat site. At the same time, I'll build a bunch of smaller sites in the SAME niche using Blackhat SEO, hoping to get those sites ranking quickly. Those Blackhat sites will be hosted on a completely different server. Once the Blackhat sites are receiving enough traffic, I'll create a very prominent NOFOLLOW link on the Blackhat site to my Whitehat site. Then on my Whitehat site, I'll have an email signup form or landing page where I can collect people's email addresses so that visitors who sign up will receive reminders of updates and hopefully return. It'll also have social media sharing buttons as well.

    The premise behind this is that the worst that can happen to a Blackhat site is that it gets banned by the search engines. But if I don't invest much effort into each site, then it may be worth the risk. And I, ideally, try to funnel a large fraction of the traffic the Blackhat site receives to my Whitehat site where all of my good content resides, but since it doesn't have a ******** link from a Blackhat site, it won't get penalized (at least that's what I think.. I watched a Youtube Video from Matt Cutts a few years ago where he says you won't get penalized for building nofollow links as long as you're not building so many that you're spamming.)

    What do you think of this strategy? Is it safe or not? Or even if it's safe, is it worth the effort and possibly money? Thanks.
     
  2. SEOMadHatter

    SEOMadHatter Junior Member

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    A nofollow link won't make it "safer" it just tells Google that it's a promotional link and shouldn't pass juice. And look at what Google does - not what a staff member said a long time ago.

    If you can find a legimate reason your black hat site would link over to your white hat site (say for example a lot of spammy sites link to Wikipedia and another authority site because they read it in an SEO guide). If it looks like you're doing it for promotion then best case scenario they take a look at your "white hat" site. I used to work as a manual checker for Bing and I guarantee what you most SEO's would consider "white hat" a reviewer will still consider a poor result.
     
  3. ragnarkar

    ragnarkar Registered Member

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    OK, thanks, SEOMadHatter.

    Is there any way to safely funnel traffic from a blackhat site to a whitehat site with minimal chance of being detected? Say, putting up a pop-up that says "We've moved! Please check out my new site at (the url spelled out) . (the suffix of the site)" and you replace the "." with the English word that describes it (sorry, I can't post that word because the spam filters won't allow it.) Put the name of the site in an image just to be safe.
     
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  4. ChanzGrande

    ChanzGrande Elite Member

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    There really is no way to do this other than to cloak your links. We have a lot of information in the forum about this general idea, but you are referencing source material from several years ago and asking questions about something Matt Cutt's represented back in the day. SEO is an ever changing game. You would be better off to evaluate the things people are doing in the here and now to generate search engine clout and to get their content ranking as opposed to even listening to any content from 3 years ago.

    Get current, and you can have success. For clarity though, I'm actually saying yes one can safely do what you want if they have the right skillset and tools ... or they are willing to spend enough money to acquire those things. The basic model you need if you intend to be shady in these ways is called "Cloaking,' and it entails showing one set of content to web crawlers or search engines, but a completely different set of content to real visitors.

    Good luck!
     
  5. Sristy

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    It should be fine, but who knows what is right or wrong in googleland, because a manual reviewer will definitely see that you own both the sites since you are announcing that "we have moved".