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Is it safe now to register a domain name to show a latest Movie with all those crackdowns?

Discussion in 'CPA' started by Adkins, Jul 21, 2010.

  1. Adkins

    Adkins Junior Member

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    I have been making some mini blogs at blogger.com and monetizing few of the latest movies using ************** and now I have had one of my blogspot site being taken off.So I am just wondering why not register a domain like how it should be done and doing some SEO on it so that I could rake in some cash.
    But I am actually a bit scared with all these movies sites being shut down by US homeland security
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    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/blackhat-lounge/214561-movies-links-tv-finally-shut-down-jail-gogo-lol.html
    I have seen many such sites pop relating to the movies which I am promoting on youtube.But the thing is I live in the US and I am afraid they will take down my domain also and get me in trouble from the hosting providers which I use(Currently hotgator and dreamhost)
    Or is it just that only those movie sites which has almost all the movies database and is very popular which is having the problem?
    Say if I throw up a Wordpress mini site showing only 1 movie like for
    eg watchxxxxxxxmovieonline.com or something like that and rank high for that search term will I land up in trouble?
    Help needed as I am in need of some 16k by the end of August and currently i dont know of any other ways to make money online other than protecting content with **************.
     
  2. Talsin

    Talsin Regular Member

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    Don't think you will get in trouble with the federal government directly.

    You will get utterly raped by the movie studio that produce the movie though, and they will go after you (in the current climate).

    If you are a US citizen dont do it IMO. If you are outside the US it maybe worth risking if your very very careful about it.

    When you rank high for a specific movie (like no1 spot in Google whilst its out in the cinemas) they will notice and they will go for the throat.
     
  3. Adkins

    Adkins Junior Member

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    So what are all those Mini Site owners doing right now?The thing is I do live in the US,so will I end myself in trouble?
    But I am still seeing all these mini site owners popping up,so how are they doing it?Still everyone uses whois guard or whois protection.
     
  4. Talsin

    Talsin Regular Member

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    Well people are willing to risk it, some will be massively paranoid about how they do it and run very tight security keeping their personal footprint as small as possible.

    Some won't be in the US, some will.

    You have to decide whether or not the risk is worth it for you personally. Knowing how hard they are going after people though, you need to be able to make some serious bank for the risk to be worth it.

    Don't get me wrong im not above breaking the law if the risk - reward ratio is right, but for this I dont think it is.

    Check out the TorrentFreak blog to see whats happening with shutdowns all over the world at the moment and decide for yourself if its worth it. Just be aware if you get caught you will get majorly fucked.

    Just my 2cents.
     
  5. SuperBlackHat

    SuperBlackHat Power Member

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    someone whos knowledgeable of this please chime in because i was going to buy some movie domains myself
     
  6. Talsin

    Talsin Regular Member

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    I helped admin a movie site that got over 5k (organic) uniques a day if that gives what I said anymore weight.

    I don't anymore due to the aforemention risk vs reward factor.

    I don't know what more you expect anyone else to tell you. Its common knowledge that sites all over the world are being hit right now, yes there is an oppurtunity to fill in the blanks, but you better be a real n1nja about it if you don't want to go down.
     
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  7. Adkins

    Adkins Junior Member

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    Are they targeting Sites containing Mass Movies Database or are they still going after mini sites offering free viewing and download links for just 1 movie alone for
    eg:watchXXXXXXXonline.com or something like that.It seems like all the sites which was taken down contains almost all the latest Release Movies.
     
  8. Talsin

    Talsin Regular Member

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    The government are going after the big multi-movie sites.

    Theres some uber list they are working through at the moment that has all the well known sites on it + all the well known warez sites.

    The movie studios are going after individual distributors when they get enough info on them to do so.
     
  9. XxSCaRFaCExX

    XxSCaRFaCExX Regular Member

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    Just host your movie site to hosting companies that are not based in US and UK and your site will be safe ;)
     
  10. Talsin

    Talsin Regular Member

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    Not true.

    The biggest site of them all watch-movies.info (or whatever it was), was hosted in Russia and owned by a Russian, and what happened to it ? Oh yea right it got taken down, so did its clone.

    You can host in China maybe and still be safe, but you site speed will be terrible, which may impact your ranking.

    Have a look at:

    http://torrentfreak.com/thousands-more-bittorrent-users-to-be-sued-in-the-u-s-100718/

    http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-admins-charged-in-1-25bn-movie-piracy-100713/
     
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  11. XxSCaRFaCExX

    XxSCaRFaCExX Regular Member

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    ohh sorry I forgot to include Russia and germany. My movie site ranks #2 in google in 3 keywords and hosted in Asia and in same site speed. Just choose the best host outside the Danger Zone..
     
  12. Adkins

    Adkins Junior Member

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    And for domain registrations what do you recommend?
    Also are they going after mini sites made specifically for 1 movie alone?
    Do you know of any such domains or sites being taken down which screens just 1 movie alone for eg:
    watchXXXXXonline.com
     
  13. XxSCaRFaCExX

    XxSCaRFaCExX Regular Member

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    Just do everything outside. If you'r an american and did a crime in china, who's gonna arrest u?American Government?!NO!

    That goes same with Piracy. But there will come a time that Anti-Piracy will be international. US Gov is so serious about it and treating it like Terrorism ;)
     
  14. Talsin

    Talsin Regular Member

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    Well tbf if you are an American living in America hosting your site in China you are still commiting a crime in America.

    Your site may be safe, but that doesn't make you safe from prosecution if they manage to track you down as the owner.

    You can be super sly about it though.
     
  15. Dayum

    Dayum BANNED BANNED

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    If you want that kinda site, I'd say go for porn, people love porn. No ones going to come after you either.
     
  16. XxSCaRFaCExX

    XxSCaRFaCExX Regular Member

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    Aren't we in BLACK HAT Forum? We are all commiting crime here. The guy is asking how to be safe on his movie site and it just happens that I have a few movie sites that are running more than a year now, that's y i'm trying to help him by the way I am doing BLACK HATLY and he can do it too.
     
  17. Talsin

    Talsin Regular Member

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    Blackhat does not equal commiting crime man :rolleyes:

    Sure a lot of Blackhatters do commit crime and scam the crap out of people (and I have no problem with that as long as its not me getting scammed ;)) .

    Blackhat means abusing search engine (or other websites) rules for dealing with things, thats not criminal.

    Copyright infringement on major intelectual property rights is very criminal. I'm not saying don't do it, but if you do it, cover your arse well and be aware you may well go to jail or end up with ridiculous fines.

    Is it safe? No obviously.

    Can you get away with it if your smart? Yes of course.

    If you have to come here and ask how to do the very basics are you likely to be one of the people who can get away with whilst making a lot of money? No probably not.


    And its good your trying to help him :D
     
  18. XxSCaRFaCExX

    XxSCaRFaCExX Regular Member

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    Adkins: Contact me via PM.

    Talsin: I don't get u man. Since when abusing is not a crime? End of discussion with u
     
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  19. Talsin

    Talsin Regular Member

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    Errr a crime is when you break the laws of the country you live in.

    Blackhat is when you break the rules that some random company have set out. Like when you game the Google Algorithim to make your sites rank higher.

    You really dont see the difference ?

    Just so you know one will get you sent to prison, the other one wont ;)
     
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  20. XxSCaRFaCExX

    XxSCaRFaCExX Regular Member

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    Wish someone translates what this guy is saying:D weird

    Go grab a beer( a lot), you'r too serious. Talk to me when u have a hangover, maybe you'l be much better to talk to in that condition.
     
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