1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Is it possible to rank new site? or niche sites are not working?

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by kingambit, Mar 26, 2017.

  1. kingambit

    kingambit Newbie

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2015
    Messages:
    23
    Likes Received:
    0
    I see many threads about SEO guides and tips, but on the other hand I hear that now niche sites are excluded by google recent years algorithms. so what is the truth?
    IS IT POSSIBLE TO RANK NEW SITE?? and if so, what is all about google downgrading niche sites?
     
  2. patriotnews

    patriotnews Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2015
    Messages:
    987
    Likes Received:
    560
    Location:
    under there
    Google isn't downgrading niche sites, they downgrade junk sites.
    Yes, you can rank new sites, I just ranked one within the past 3 months.
    Granted that site went live with 20 highly researched long-tail focused articles, and posts 1x weekly, with great inter-linking.

    If you mean the old style AdSense niche sites, of 5 pages of spun content, then yeah, Google won't show you much love or for long, but that isn't because it is a niche site, it's because it is a junk site.
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  3. kingambit

    kingambit Newbie

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2015
    Messages:
    23
    Likes Received:
    0
    Thank for the answer patriotnews!
    If the articles are spun correctly after a well research of few related articles and are in high quality. Is it still in the category of quality site? or google may consider it junk?
     
  4. Alaindeloin

    Alaindeloin Regular Member

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2011
    Messages:
    386
    Likes Received:
    122
    "Niche site" does not mean anything...all websites have a niche...
     
  5. Mr Go Figure

    Mr Go Figure Regular Member

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2016
    Messages:
    206
    Likes Received:
    68
    Thanks for clearing that up, I was wondering does niche have another meaning.
     
  6. kingambit

    kingambit Newbie

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2015
    Messages:
    23
    Likes Received:
    0
    Anyone?
     
  7. Alaindeloin

    Alaindeloin Regular Member

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2011
    Messages:
    386
    Likes Received:
    122
    We already replied you. Your question does not make any sense.
     
  8. achris09

    achris09 Registered Member

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2014
    Messages:
    55
    Likes Received:
    5
    Gender:
    Male
    Home Page:
    Yes. This is possible. I actually wrote a post about it "how to rank higher on google search with a new blog". You can check on my site if you have time. I've also written some Google Algorithms used.
     
  9. jackteam

    jackteam Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2015
    Messages:
    940
    Likes Received:
    175
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Low Competition Keywords at 3$ only.
    Home Page:
    Google always likes Micro Niche Sites if it has good and valuable information to the viewers. Here you need a low competition keyword and you have to build the site with complete information.

    And, Yes you can rank new sites by doing proper SEO.
     
  10. stevesolo

    stevesolo Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2014
    Messages:
    883
    Likes Received:
    240
    Gender:
    Female
    Occupation:
    Content Marketing
    Home Page:
    Yes, you can still rank your niche site. Choose the right keyword with good search volume and low competition and do proper SEO (quality and unique content that makes sense to the readers, build quality backlinks too and promote it on social media too) to your niche site.
     
  11. xReminisce

    xReminisce Regular Member

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2012
    Messages:
    433
    Likes Received:
    229
    Occupation:
    Spy
    Home Page:
    There is no reason why a new site with proper readable content that isn't some spunned bullshit or plagiarized shit cannot be ranked or indexed.
    Assuming the website
    1. is not blocking google bots
    2. and is crawl-able
    you should get indexed after awhile anyways.
    There always ways to speed up indexation.

    Bottom line is, as long your website isn't garage, there is no reason why google won't index you.
     
  12. kingambit

    kingambit Newbie

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2015
    Messages:
    23
    Likes Received:
    0
    Thanks man! By ranking I meant getting to first page.
    Is spun content done wisely can considered high quality?
     
  13. xReminisce

    xReminisce Regular Member

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2012
    Messages:
    433
    Likes Received:
    229
    Occupation:
    Spy
    Home Page:
    no, doesn't matter how great a spun article is, it is still spunned, any native reader can come along and be like hah, that is 100% spunned.
    At the VERY best, a spun article can be considered T1 worthy, but in my own personal opinion, never moneysite or PBN worthy.
    Regardless, i only ever use spun articles on T2 or lower.
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  14. kingambit

    kingambit Newbie

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2015
    Messages:
    23
    Likes Received:
    0
    Thanks! is spun content done wisely can still be considered good?
     
  15. kingambit

    kingambit Newbie

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2015
    Messages:
    23
    Likes Received:
    0
    By spun I mean researching few articles and summarize them manually with the help of a spinner. Is this ok?
    I mean every content I will buy will be spun at some level. no one invents the wheel right?
     
  16. xReminisce

    xReminisce Regular Member

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2012
    Messages:
    433
    Likes Received:
    229
    Occupation:
    Spy
    Home Page:
    That's not spunned then.
    That's rewording an article. Completely different.
    Rewording an article in your own phrases and terms, is good, much better than a spunn article using a spinner (wordAI, spinchief etc whatever)

    That can be Moneysite/PBN worthy. But if u use a spinner after you reword it, that drops the grade of the article by a fuckton, making the article worth T1 at best(if you even want to consider it an T1 article).

    Because, regardless how advanced a spinner is, it cannot make perfect grammatical sense, or even just terms and phrasing.
    As the English language, the same word can mean alot of things, but at the same time, not every one of the things can be put into a sentence which means the same thing.

    My personal advice is, if you want to be loved by google, you need to understand the following
    • don't cut corners
    • write proper content
    • don't rely on spinners
    When you do your backlinks to rank up your site using blogcomments, guest posting, web2.0, forum posts, profile links etc etc
    then you can start to use spinners
    However, saying that, it is still in your best interest to manually create your own articles without the use of those programs if you can find the time to.

    Saying so, if you take the path of PBNs for backlinks
    PBN should be treated like money sites which means the same applies
    • don't cut corners
    • write proper content
    • don't rely on spinners
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  17. jackteam

    jackteam Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2015
    Messages:
    940
    Likes Received:
    175
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Low Competition Keywords at 3$ only.
    Home Page:
    Always stay away from spun content. Avoid such technique if you would like to sustain in Google.
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1