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is it possible to make TOO many web 2.0's for tier 1?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by sogeking, Jan 24, 2014.

  1. sogeking

    sogeking Power Member

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    im scared i might make too many and be over-optimized. im not sure how many i should even make.

    is there some general guideline to use? in correlation with the monthly searches? im kinda confused on this topic.
     
  2. JuggernautJukey

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    Sorry for not providing an answer, but I would like the extend the question ....

    also, does the Web 2.0 have to be targeting the same keyword as the one you are targeting on your money site? EG, keyword is 'dog shock collars', does the Web 2.0 have to be related to shock collars too, or can it just be about dogs in general?
     
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  3. fxphil

    fxphil Senior Member

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    Diversify Ip addresses, Set them up slowly and at sporadic times and you should have no problems.
     
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  4. JuggernautJukey

    JuggernautJukey BANNED BANNED

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    New IP for each Web 2.0?
     
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  5. fxphil

    fxphil Senior Member

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    2nd follow up you can have it anything animal related. Too many web 2.0's pointed at your site with the same anchor may look devious in the eyes of Search Engines.

    Pet care
    Dog houses
    Puppy training
    kanine health
    benefits of house pet's


    Etc
     
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  6. fxphil

    fxphil Senior Member

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    No, I do a new IP for 2-3 web 2.0's

    It is more or less so your web 2.0 site's don't get in a fuss over someone having 40 logins in from the same IP.
     
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    If you can't stop creating web 2.0 properties, you should definetely start selling your services :D


     
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  8. Groen

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    No, you simply need to make sure that the invidual web 2.0 sites does not ban your other accounts for having too many accounts created from the same ip. To be honest I don't think most would ban you for having a few accounts on the same ip, but it's up to you how much security you wish to have. EDIT: oh, looks like fxphil was faster than me to answer that question :)

    Also you need to mind link velocity. For a new site it's commonly recommended to not build more than around 15 links a day, but the amount can be increased the older your domain is.
     
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    Very useful information, Thanks to all.
     
  10. sogeking

    sogeking Power Member

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    what about these web 2.0 services though. they sell like 100 2.0's at a time. is that not safe or?
     
  11. Groen

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    It depends on how fast they're being indexed if I'm not mistaken. For a new domain it looks unnatural to have a lot of links indexed within a short amount of time, and after that none for several days. I'd recommend you look for drip feeding if you need it all to look as natural as possible.
     
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    Safe depending on what you are doing and how they are being made.

    Churn and burn sites = perfectly acceptable means
    Authority sites = Do it yourself
    Supporting sites Tier 2-3 = rock out on fiver

    If they are making dif website web 2.0s it should not be a problem but if your having someone setup 40 wordpress accounts then maybe hold off.

    How are you going to maintain these web 2.0's?? Make sure you get Logins and it's not just "hey here are 40 web 2.0 backlinks"
     
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    Safe is a relative word. Thats perfectly "safe" for a youtube video, a facebook page, or a blogspot (authority platforms) and its also safe for a churn and burn site.

    For my videos I use GSA along with some guy who builds like 1000 web2.0s, then 10,000 web2.0s pointing to the first 1000, then 100 articles, xxx bookmarks and xxx wikis on the second tier, then a massive scrapebox blast on the 3rd tier.

    And that type of shit works excellent for blasting authority properties or a c&b site.

    But if you want a safe, long term authority site, the rules of the game change dramatically. Anchor text optimization changes, everything changes. Which is why I NEVER touch any of my "safe sites". I always let a pro handle that shit. Even with 3 years experience in SEO, I still lack the experience / testing / skills to build a long term authority site. So all the SEO that I do myself is for youtube, facebook, blogspot and churn and burn sites that I have back ups for ready to launch immediately.
     
  14. MegaSEO

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    If you are building the web 2.0 sites properly and with the right content then you can never have to many web 2.0 links
    directed to your tier 1 link building plan.

    MegaSEO
     
  15. triple9s

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    What would be the bare min tier 1's should one have? Or should tier 1's just be added until the rank is achieved? Also Squidoo is a tier 1 but it's a nofollow, so how much weight does it really hold? or is it best to use it as a tier 2?
     
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    Will Web 2.0's with just a single article but with an about page etc still do the job?
    Or do I really need multiple unique articles on every Web 2.0 property?

    Can I use one very well manual spun article (multiple senteces, paragraphs and on word level) for my t1 or do I really need unique articles?
     
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    You backlinks should have both "********" and "nofollow" links with diversify anchor texts !
     
  18. JoeMongan

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    You cannot over optimize with too many web 2.0 pages and backlinks for your first tier. Make sure you diversify with do-follow and
    nofollow web 2.0 sites though so it looks natural.

    -RK
     
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    Over optimization has nothing to do with web 2.0s. You can over optimize anchor texts on any platform. It's more about the quality of each property. Having nothing but web 2.0s might not look great, but if you respect anchor text diversity and link velocity there's no reason you can't do it. I'm of course talking about high domain authority web 2.0s you build manually (I and the people I know who use this method outsource the buidling of them). Software generated web 2.0s on low authority domains are an entirely diff. thing.
     
  20. Matt707

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    I don't think you can ever really have too many of them, but just be sure you're heavily diversifying your hosts, domain registrars and etc do you don't get caught. Be sure to switch up that IP too!