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Is it possible to make over 1000$ on doorways daily?

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by Liolik, Mar 28, 2013.

  1. Liolik

    Liolik Newbie

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    Hello guys. I'm on this forum for a long time, but not a great writer at all. I found a lot of interesting here, tried to implement a lot of techniques, but frankly speaking all of them were less profitable for me, than my money making strategy, and also less profitable than thread starters success.
    Maybe I just didn't get the plot of those technique, maybe I'm not thinking outside the box, I don't know :)

    But my post is not about my faults, It's about my method :)

    I'm making decent amount of money on doorways. And I'm curious, why people don't talk about them here?Maybe someone thinks they're dead? Or maybe think, that it's illegal? Of course there are illegal and very dark methods, but I'm not using those for a long time already :)

    Here are some stats from different affiliate programs:
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    The last coloumn in all screenshots it's money.

    I use different way to create dooorways and combine them to get the profit. I want to know, does anybody here does the same or something similar? I'm ready to share my experience with you. So if you're making money on doorways or just want to make them - welcome to share your experience and ask questions! :)
     
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  2. terrycody

    terrycody Senior Member

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    sorry but a newbie question,. what is a doorway. SEO related? and what u can do with it..dont know where the money come from..
     
  3. TheKingGeek

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    First time that I heard such a term, does it involve gambling? since you mentioned it being illegal
     
  4. Liolik

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    Gambling is one of the niche you can be in. Its illegal in some countries to promote gambling - but not in all the world. So gambling for some people is still a profitable niche. Im not in it in any case. When I said about illegal things I meant other than gambling :)


    If you don't know what is doorway - the best place to know about it is google and wikipedia.
    Yes it's SEO related. In fact you create an optimized site for Seach Engine bots, And use iFrame or other ways to hide it from user, whom you show a nice landing page. He should click by the link for you to get money. Or purchase smth. It's in basic. Very, very simple.
     
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  5. b520fp0

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    So do you make very large site with thousands of pages and if so how do you handle creating the content for each page? Do you use mostly duplicate content or do you use mashed up content, or some content generating tool like Kontent Machine?

    Also how do you handle creating links for thousands of page for ranking is you have very large sites? What linkbuilding tools do you use?
     
  6. b0u4bD4

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    What are doorways ? how do you rank them ? are they normal websites ? how do you monetize them ? how much does it cost to make them ? are there any forums about them ? where did you learn them ? how can i make money with them ?
     
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    I'll shed a little light, or rather try to explain this better.

    What the OP is doing is creating what I would imagine are 1000s if not 100s of thousands of pages optimized for Google spiders but NOT for human reviewers. They are cloaked via IP and User agents.

    When a Google spider hits the site they hit a page with a TON of gibberish...basically a page with scambled text that would not make sense to a normal viewer/reader, but is optimized for SEO for the spiders. Normally the idea is to rank pages for 1000s of long tail keywords, and when a user other than a Google agent clicks on the link they get routed towards your landing page/money site. So in this way you can funnel tons of long tail traffic siphoned off G.

    Now, if a Gmanual reviewer hits the page, they don't see the cloaked page of jumbled up text that is useless. When they see is a legit looking site/page and are hopefully none the wiser :D
     
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  9. b0u4bD4

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    Why isn't this technique on BHW ? i mean i've been here for about 4 years now and i've never heard about it ! and how does he create so many pages ? what are the bots used ? what are the cloaking scripts used ? how and where can i get started please ?
     
  10. kboxer7

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    Its around. In fact there is a section of the forum for "cloaking."

    There are a number of softwares/plugins etc out there that do it, but Fantomas Shadowmaker (around $4k) is one of the best. There is another one for WP I think its called WPcloaker (some simple name like that) which I've heard works ok too.

    The biggest challenge is in the user agent/IP database for Google. Spyfetcher (what fantomas uses) is reportidly the best.

    As for 1000s of pages....I've used fantamos to create idk 100s of thousands of pages within like 20min or less. I'm not associated with the tool or owners, its just the only cloaking tool I've used.

    Hope that helps point you in the right direction.
     
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  11. b520fp0

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    In theory, sounds like a create method. What is the downside? Is it harder now to rank with gibberish now than it use to be? Is it easy to get de-indexed and one always is starting over?

    I have always wanted to try something like this but figured it must be harder than it sounds or more people would be doing it. I couldn't afford Shadowmaker but maybe one of the alternative tools would work OK.

    Thanks for mentioning WPcloaker as an alternative to Shadowmaker.

     
  12. kboxer7

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    No downside other than there is always a risk of a manual reviewer slipping thru or figuring it out.

    In that case your "cloaked" domain gets de-indexed, AND even worse, they will probably penalize the site/URL your cloaked domain(s) were sending traffic to. This happended to BMW germany division and Sears/JC penny (I think JC penny). All the big boys used and continue to use this method.

    It is good to set up what I would call portfolios to protect yourself from a complete loss in case of a manual reviewer who figures it out. Set up a portfolio of cloaked domains in a niche with 100s of thousands of pages all syphoning off traffic from hyper long tail keywords all to a "landing page/money site" that can be replicated on another URL.

    Set up multiple copies of the money site (dup content is a non issue since traffic comes from the cloaked domains), and multiple mini portfolios of cloaked properties. Some will last for a few months, some for a couple years. Its a numbers game....but content still ranks well.



    have a lot of cloaked domains all with a TON of pages all targeted at hyper long tail keywords, a

     
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    Did this a few years ago, nice money. A bitch to keep ahead of google. I used IP based cloaking. .info sites with 300-1000 long tail kws redirecting straight to merchants shop.
    What works nowdays i have no idea, i imagine subdomains/subpages on high auth sites if i had to guess.
     
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    doorways are the easiest way to make big money i.e thousands of dollars a day if u had the idea...and u can do that without any tool costing $4k..just use ur mind and try experimenting again and again if u fail in that case..
    and liolik id like to contact with u to share the techniques..:)
     
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  15. turist

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    Liolik,
    1) What soft do you use for doorways?
    2) What niche is most profitable, in your opinion and which niche do you use?
    3) What affilate program do you use?
    4) Where do you get the keywords?
    5) Do you use your own domains ( like .com, .info) or do you use any other methods for hosting your doorways?
    6) Do you use unique texts for your doorways or copy from other websites?
    7) Do you use any methods for fast indexing and get a higher position in the google? ( like links building)

    I am very interested in this method and I will be very grateful to those who can share information and maybe some little secrets :).
     
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    How do you host the cloaked domains? Do you spread them around a few hosts, do you use free hosts for some? Can you use web2s, jcow, etc platforms for some of the cloaked pages? Hmm, this is right up my valley, I used to make good money in adult doing something very similar
     
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    @OP , the sky is the limit :)
    I had a post about my earnings using doorways
    check it here , if your interested in exchanging info , Kindly pm your Skype ID .
     
  18. turist

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    Liolik, Are you here?
     
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    OP dropped out....Hope he didn't get busted for "illegal" use of the Internet.
     
  20. Liolik

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    Hi, guys again :) Nope, I use the Internet only in the right way, but somrtimes sitting too much near air conditioners, and as a result I got sick :( But now I'm back and will answer all the questions.