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is it possible to have seo clients without sending them a contract?

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by freckletone, Mar 27, 2011.

  1. freckletone

    freckletone Regular Member

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    Or is it a must? can't you just go with the flow or is a contract necessary if you are doing SEO for businesses, like small businesses?
     
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    jstover77 Executive VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Of course. In fact I never worked with a contract with my SEO clients except for a couple and those where $3K+ per month accounts, and those clients insisted on it. If it is under $1K per month it is not necessary, but this is totally up to you. A contract is good if you want to protect both sides interest, but is not necessary.
     
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    If you trust them, a contract isn't necessary, right up until the moment they decide not to pay you and fuck you in the ass. Then, unless you have the resources to pursue them for breaching their contract, you may as well just wipe your ass with any contract you might have, because it's basically worthless unless you can back it up with legal muscle.
     
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    nope you dont have to have a contract.

    If its a mom and pop i would not do it just cause you could loose the deal over the contract and not really understanding it.

    If its a mid size or larger company most of them wont do business unless you have a contract.
     
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    i'd like to add one more question relevant to the topic....
    what points you guys take care while writing a contract?
    like the ranking,keywords....anything of that sort?
     
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    Theodore Power Member

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    I've been thinking this my self, but say if there a big company (well known company) they will want to have a contract wont they?
     
  7. MagicMike

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    A contract is fine, but not necessary... I use it as "psychological commitment" more than anything... the truth is, I'm never going to go to court to try to enforce a contract, however it SEEMS more serious to a client if you use a contract.

    I don't always. I actually feel people out. Sometimes I sell my services with the very flexible "no contract, cancel anytime" approach... and sometimes I want a 6 or 12 month "agreement". Whatever works. Both can be effective.
     
  8. freckletone

    freckletone Regular Member

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    Thanks for all your input! I am not planning to have big clients at first so no contract will be fine with me at first... i'm not scared of them paying because if they won't they can loose their rankings if i pull their links
     
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    No need for a contract but you might want to get paid up front the first time or at least get paid half... you never know with people. I also recommend having them go through the PP procedure so they can't take it back
     
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    I would never work without a contract. It's not there to protect them, It's there to
    protect me. It's not about payment, I'm paid upfront so if I don't receive payment I
    don't do any work. But it is there to protect me from their lawyers. Say you used an outsourcer and they spammed some links on porn sites? you could get sued for bringing
    their company into disrepute. There are many unscrupulous companies out there who
    will not only do everything they can to not pay you but will blame you for everything
    that goes wrong with their company and try and sue you for it. Breach of intellectual
    copyright, or if their site is hacked while you have access to it.
    You need to protect yourself. They'll take you to the cleaners and never work in this
    industry again.

    This guy wouldn't have this problem if he had a contract in place stating his guarantee not to outrank him only
    stands while they are paying clients. He might win the case but I bet the client has a deeper war chest then the SEO who
    will probably be bankrupt before the case is over.
     
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