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Is it me or BMR (BuildMyRank) staff that is unreasonable here?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by bexiv, Jan 8, 2012.

  1. bexiv

    bexiv Newbie

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    I signed up to BMR for a free trial last week and all seemed very nice, I have a writer that writes for me 600 words articles, and I just throw them in there with a few links.

    My trial has ended as I had no more links left. I signed up to a monthly subscription.

    I wrote myself a short article about the Siri for iPhone 4s. I am native english speaker.

    Guess what? They reject it for:

    Are you serious?

    First there is no spelling errors, that is one for sure.

    They took my 59$ and rejected 2 other articles today too, for the same reason.

    I paid a guy on fiver for 4 articles for BMR and he submitted them now, I put them all now on their for posting to see their damn approval and if they will approve them or what. His articles are so simplistic that a 5 years old would not have a problem reading them.

    I disputed the rejection, and I told them, if they want us to address articles to 7 years old, they should make it clear from the start.

    What is that bs network they own there? I am not here for quantity, but quality, and it seems like quality for them, is targeting with your articles, a 5 y.o.

    I am also a subscriber at HPR Society. But I want diversity and this is why I use both.

    What do you suggest? Because it has been less than 24 hours I am subscribed with Paypal with them, I will contest the transaction, and I don't care what they will say. I did not pay them to reject very well written short articles.

    And if you have any suggestions, let me know.

    Thanks guys.
     
  2. bexiv

    bexiv Newbie

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    And I am ready to post my article here and you guys let me know what you think.
     
  3. seoguru13

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    There's something called the flesch readability score or so. According to it, articles written for 5th-7th graders are perfect for SEO, and these guys might be using that too.

    I understand their concern about unique content, as I'm building a network of unique content High PR blogs too. But, rejecting anything is inappropriate. Just move on; there are smaller networks you could target. BMR anyway's does not guarantee how many articles go onto high PR sites etc. It's just a hit or miss.
     
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  4. Gary Becks

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    BMR has always been tough when it comes to approving articles. Some people love it, some hat it, either way - if you file a dispute via paypal you're gonna loose ..

    Either find someone to write articles who guarantees approval for each post or just use a different service.
     
  5. Crewchief007

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    It goes without saying that BMR takes a lot of getting used to. I was with them until I replaced them with another one of my own high HPBL networks. As of late they have been rejecting a lot of articles for various reasons.

    Of course there are some conspiracy theorists who believe the rejections are all part of a clandestine plan by BMR to force subscribers to use the BMR writers at $2.50 a pop. I cannot say either way. But I can say my rejection rate was around 1.1% to 1.5% and they claimed duplicate content but we never found it to be so.

    Now that brings me to the grammar issue, sentence structure and word order issue. BMR is most likely using a some sort of a grammar checker, to scan articles. I say that because I'm in a private network that flags any content when, for example, an "A" is proceeded by a word that starts with a "u"

    Which means, if I were to write, "A user cannot enter without..." the system will reject the article as bad grammar every time. It has some other quirks that I had to get used to. Here is my point, learn the BMR quirks, if you want to see results minus the aggravation.

    Now comes some potentially bad news. As I was reading your post, I saw the issues highlighted in green.


    If the content you are sending to BMR mirrors the content in your post, you are going to constantly have issues. With the monthly investment and the cost and/or time to acquire content, to submit to BMR, it won't be worth it unless your rejection is under 2% and you are submitting a minimum of at least sixty to seventy articles per week.

    The people who are submitting five, to seven, to ten or so articles per week, to BMR are really wasting their time and money.
     
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  6. jon_xx_x

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    Post the article here since they won't accept it, I'd like to see it. Unless you're going to use it else where.
     
  7. Gary Becks

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    Disagree all you want, but the fact of the matter is that paypal does NOT cover non tangible goods, period..
     
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    I've had a fraud buyer stealing me for 225usd, and paypal didn't give a shit that it is an intagible. I fought withthe guys for over half an hour, to no avail. Paypal chooses its rules; if it decides against the seller, nothing else matters.
     
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    I do not think it's a fair assessment, judging his post on a forum and reaching a conclusion that there is something wrong with his writing.
    Writing on the forum is mostly of an informal nature.
    I know, that the articles that I do write are way over what I write on forums.
     
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    Virus1, that's why I included the disclaimer, "potentially bad news." If what he is submitting to BMR is like that, as I stated, he is going to have issues. Obviously, he has some sort of issue but that is neither here nor there because he has already stated that he is in effect, cancelling the service.

    At any rate, from my experience, only a small percentage of Internet marketers should be using BMR anyways because it is a, "Feed the content beast!"
     
  11. transam7410

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    It seems they lost a customer. And by your story they've lost another potential customer as well. Noone should go through all that trouble for blog posts. What a bunch of money stealing assholes.
     
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    I think we shouldn't make any judgement until we see at least one article example that was rejected.
    OP please post one article without changing the structure.
     
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    I love it when I see people complaining they can't get articles accepted into BMR.
    This just speaks to the quality of the network, which is what makes it so powerful.
    I have never had a post rejected from BMR, and I write about 30-40 a day.
     
  14. bexiv

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    Let me update you guys on this. A lot has happened since, the moderator replied to my ticket after I really got pissed at him with this answer:

    So I obviously made 2 errors there according tohim and did not correctly check the spelling.

    So I went back and replied to him with this:

    I had no answer back, and few articles I submitted later got accepted and went live, and few others were still pending.

    About an hour ago, I get a cancellation email from Paypal for the subscription, and then a refund. Lol. Obviously, he canceled my membership because he wasn't happy about the way I complained about his service, and he might have seen my thread here... Regardless, I did not get any email explaining the cancellation. I went and and submitted a ticket:

    LOL is he serious? I can put my money else where and was wondering how to get a refund from him, it seems like he went on his high horse now thinking his network can treat clients and reject them as if we would fall out of Google without him. I think I paid for a service and I am allowed to criticize, as a client, what is harming me.

    Here is the article, and I won't use it, judge by yourself:

    I underlined the mistakes he was pointing to for rejecting my article.
     
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    This is JMHO but people have to be insane to pay BMR a minimum of $60 a month and then work their asses off providing them unique content which benefits BMR much more than it benefits the writer of the single link (in your article) on an un-ranked page somewhere on a blog with PR. Shit you can do that for FREE on any reputable article writing site and still have a link on a high PR site but on an unranked page. That RSS shit and Web blast is all BS and stuff you can do in minutes for nothing.

    I didn't study every word of that site but what a gig for noobs unless I missed some underlying value. You write all their content and have to pay them for the priviledge of putting one link on the stuff you created EVERY MONTH?

    LOL, my hat's off to the guy that thought up this idea. Get people to pay you to write your content - rotflmao. I need to run that by my employees. See if they'll pay me to come work for me. I'm tired of paying them.
     
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  16. bexiv

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    lol are you serious? you are comparing a post here to an article written for BMR :) it seems like you have some un-revealed interest in BMR buddy boy!
     
  17. bexiv

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    that is smarter than what the other said there, smh.
     
  18. Getwhatchuwant

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    It is a brilliant idea isnt it?

    Just think if people took the time to write that much UNIQUE content for their own site? LOL they would see more benefit than putting it off page.

    If I write 40/50 unique articles about my niche per month I can assure you it is not going to strengthen someone elses networks, that stuff is for MY site. The well spun stuff is what goes outside for links back.
     
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  19. bexiv

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    anyhow, lesson to be learned, i won't deal with anyone thinking they are the sh*t, every one is replaceable. and this attitude they have at BMR is disgraceful. I gave them a shot, and finally lost my time, although I liked the concept and was starting to modify my seo strategy to give them a bigger role in the process. I will deal with people who own reputable networks here on BHW, and anyways I am still a happy customer up to now at HPRS, I just want something of higher quality to mix up my BLs.
     
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  20. Gary Becks

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    Does anything you just said make any sense to you? You are talking about a fraud attempt and we are talking about someone simply wanting a refund for saying services weren't rendered.

    Paypal employees stick closely to guidelines when it comes to this sort of thing, been there and done that. If you don't know this first hand then you obviously haven't made any real money selling anything online and had to deal with disputes.

    Paypal doesn't cover non tangible goods - it's in their tos and they abide by it 100%. Of course, if you were scammed and never authorized the payment to begin with this is the exception to the rule.
     
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