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is it illegal to farm emails from a dating site under false pretense and spam them later?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Ranko Jones, Nov 2, 2012.

  1. Ranko Jones

    Ranko Jones BANNED BANNED

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    say if im pretending to be a hot chick then take their emails then later spam the list so they wouldnt know for sure how i got their email?

    if its illegal and i could get in trouble what would be a legit way to do it?
     
  2. Chees

    Chees Regular Member

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    spam is illegal. news huh ?
     
  3. CoyoteAssassin

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    Are you asking is it illegal in the US/Your Country, or with the site or the email provider.

    This is one of those things that if you have to ask, it is most likely wrong.

    Having said that, I scrape emails for a living. I don't advertise garbage to them so I have no bad feelings about it.
     
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    Don't think the way you are getting the emails are illegal, but spamming those emails are in most countries illegal. If you are spamming those people anyway I would recommend you to put a unsubscribe link in the mail.
     
  5. dubious

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    A) It is not 'illegal' to farm emails, you are probably violating a website's ToS but that just means they can revoke your right to use their servce (ie: Ban your account)

    B) Sending Unsolicted emails means you have to be CAN-SPAM compliant. It's actually not hard at all to send a CA-SPAM complaint email. Follow these steps via Comm100:
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    http://emailmarketing.comm100.com/email-marketing-ebook/can-spam-law.aspx
    Don't Use False or Misleading Email Header Information: Simply put, no email spoofing. Identify who you are, what you do etc.


    Don't Use Deceptive Subject Lines: Your subject line must accurately reflect what's in the content of your email. If your email contains an offer for 10% off of a Persian rug, your subject line can't say that the Persian rug is free or talk about a completely unrelated topic just to incite people to open the email.


    Identify That the Email is An Ad: You can do this in very subtle ways as the law is not detailed on it. However, somewhere your email must reveal that the message is an advertisement. A "brought to you by" at the close of the email is often considered sufficient.


    Provide a Physical Location: You must let recipients know where you are physically located via a physical postal address within your email. This is not optional. It can be a street address or a postal box address. However, you must provide a way for users to reach you via registered postal mail.


    Let Recipients Know How to Opt Out of Future Emails: This is completely non-optional. Your email must always provide recipients with a clear and conspicuous explanation of how the recipient can opt-out of getting any email from you in the future. It must be easy for a person to recognize, read, and understand. The best methods, which are usually automatically handled by email marketing platforms such as Comm100, will provide either a return email address or an easy-to-click-to web page where users can quickly unsubscribe from future mailings. You are allowed to create a menu in which users can opt-out of only specific types of mailings, but you are always required to give the user the option of opting out of ALL future mailings from you (called a "Universal Unsubscribe").


    Honor Opt-Out Requests Promptly and Honorably: Whichever opt-out mechanism you choose to use must be able to process opt-out requests for at least thirty-days after you send your email message, and users' requests to opt-out must be honored within ten business days. You are not allowed to charge a fee or require a recipient to give you any personally identifying information beyond an email address. You may not make a recipient take any step other than to send a reply email or visit a single page on a website as a condition for opting-out of an email list. After people have opted out of an email list, you cannot sell, rent or transfer their email addresses, even if those are contextualized as part of a postal mailing list. The ONLY exception to this rule is that you may transfer the email addresses to a company that you have hired in order to help you be CAN-SPAM LAW complaint.


    Monitor What Others Do On Your Behalf: Even if you have hired another company to do your email marketing, you are still the responsible party under the law as both the company whose product is being promoted as well as the company who sent the email are legally responsible. This is a particularly important point if you run an affiliate marketing program as one of your marketing channels.
     
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    Great answer by Dubious Thanks given!

    OP scrape and send, who gives a shit. Mention in the email where you got their email, process un-subs + bounces and work away.

    If you think its illegal, then make sure every single part of your mailing operation is totally offshore and untraceable. Better safe than sorry.

    Just don't send out any malicous emails containing viruses or attempting identity theft. A dating offer isn't the end of the world. My biggest concern would be your inboxing rate and also everyone is doing this, so expect low low low conversions.
     
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  7. Ranko Jones

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    interesting.

    ive just been getting into incentive marketing and cpa coming from the no mans land of seo. man this stuff is much more fun (being based more on human psychology and stuff being one factor) and quick to see whats working i love it.

    i havent actually tried email marketing yet. dunno if i will yet see how it goes. well me worrying whether its illegal is to do with me wanting to setup something for the foreseeable future so i owuldnt wanna do something that could get me in trouble down the line. want a clear conscience.