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Is it as good as it was 3-5 years ago?

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by EkszDream, Jun 21, 2012.

  1. EkszDream

    EkszDream BANNED BANNED

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    It's 2012 now and I recently joined "Black Hat World" and I'am reading some posts about how people make money but it seems that best times were few years ago,me and my friend made 62 $ from reading here and trying things but I wonder is there still a lot of money around that you can make from new ideas or old ideas or it got a lot harder and more competition now?
     
  2. bigkapp

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    Yes , Things might have gotten a little harder due to competition and a few other variables . But it's still possible for a complete noob to make some really good money .
     
  3. harry black

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    I agree with the above post. It is more competitive definitely but there's still good money to be made!
     
  4. illfounded21

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    BHW won't suddenly make you money, YOU make yourself money using the knowledge gained here.

    A chump can use BHW 5 years ago and make $0, that same chump can come back today and still make $0. The opposite is also true for people who are making money.

    At the end of the day, the reality is, making money stems from the individual.
     
  5. VIC SEO

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    yes 3-5 years ago i use to make $1k-$2k with out much effort.now i have to put lot of effort to make $1k per month.Its because of increase in competition and outsourcers
     
  6. VHSEO_Mike

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    Yes, the competition is higher, but now we have much more possibilities than before. Just think about Pinterest. Few years ago none knew about it, but now it has more conversion rate than even Facebook, so I strongly recommend that you start your IM journey as early as possible to get the maximum benefit :)
     
  7. Jeppe

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    IM is just has hard and as confusing as its always been, the fact of the matter is most people will leave with less money than they started with. This also goes for vice versa, I know some people who were making thousands a day and then one day the game changes and they just can't adapt. That's it they are out. Sure they might have $500,000 saved, but that won't last you forever, not if your gambling trying to recover your business. Lots of these 2005 heavy hitters now back to working in corporate America.
     
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  8. qu1ck

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    Well it's like you have to start from scratch when your old mega niches and methods die out. So you're a noob again. Can hit your pride pretty badly when you were making over $10k/mo for months and months and then have to start from nothing again.
     
  9. Expertpeon

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    Very very, very few people know how to SEO anymore.
    However, what has changed is that google itself has changed. Google is in love with large businesses now, and as such, most terms are filled with major companies. This isn't an increase in competition or outsourcers.

    Competition itself, if it doesn't know anything about SEO, will not necessarily make it harder to make money. However, knowledgeable competition does not seem to have increased in the last year, in fact, I'd argue that most SEOers who were awesome last year, are completely lost in a haze this year (from what I see with my competitors).

    If anything, buying links is a very short term solution. My improved methods are working even better than before, and I'm not sure that anyone can really emulate them too easily.


    I think you completely misunderstand how investing works.
    $500k can easily generate enough to live from... not if you want to live in Montenegro I guess.

    Thankfully I have adapted to this recent penguin enough to survive and stay in IM, however, I always have my masters in nuclear engineering to fall back on (though I have a LOT more than $500k saved so far) :)
     
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  10. IamNRE

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    LoL Expertpeon makes more than $500k per month :)

    From the pasts I have seen.
     
  11. Expertpeon

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    :rolleyes:
     
  12. EkszDream

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    Well i hope my life starts here!Thanks for the replies. :)
     
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  14. zebrahat

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    Having been here since 2008, I perceive things have gotten much better in many bottom line respects. About a zillion discussions of MNS, offline consulting, freelancing, wholesaling and the like have made it much clearer how exactly to construct and maintain winning businesses in each area, for those who are real go-getters. There are more evergreen methods to make bank now than a few years ago. There is an intense library of free shares available from the members download section, that make figuring out how to succeed much less a mystery than it was years ago.

    And thee are now more ways to get around Google, despite all their attempts to monopolize everybody's ability to conduct successful internet marketing (um, "improving the user experience," to use their cover language). On the down side, things were more open and freewheeling a few years ago on BHW, where there were whole sections on cookie stuffing, ewhoring, CL etc. "forbidden" topics, and less looking over one's shoulder to cover their backsides from litigation.
     
  15. illfounded21

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    You are an absolute badman! Some hefty savings going on.
     
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    It's gotten tougher, everyone and their mother is an internet marketer lol, things get saturated fast when shared, definately not like it was 5 years ago.
     
  17. PJeck

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    All I have to say is Acai Berries on Adwords. I'm sad I missed that one.
     
  18. VinBed

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    Things aren't necessarily better or worse, just different. There's plenty of money to be made, but it's not necessarily with the outdated methods people post here.
     
  19. nightshade877

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    Are you kidding?? lol If I could go back 5 years and do what I a doing now, I wouldn't have to work another day in my life.. Much harder now. No matter what method you're doing.
     
  20. zonfar

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    Thats because now you know of the effective methods that were usable 5 years ago, just like there's usable methods that you will find out about 5 years from now.. unless you uncover them now