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Is Google Detecting Scrapebox or do I have Bad Private Proxies?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO Tools' started by tman47, May 20, 2010.

  1. tman47

    tman47 Newbie

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    I use scrapebox at very low volumes - 3000 comments to blogs every 10 days or so, and use a random pack (servers in several different cities) of 10 exclusive private proxies (no limits in these).

    Recently after doing a comment blast (all diff names, emails and spun comments for each) I went to do a Google search...

    Google is asking me to fill in a captcha form to confirm I am human (twice in a row). Now, since I have not used any other BH tool or any other tool that works on volume processes, in my mind, this can only mean on thing....

    Google is able to trace back past the private proxies to my main IP (which is fixed at my ISP) and/or there is an issue with how SB is scraping the URLs - but even then, Google should not be able to detect back to my IP if the private proxies are working right..I would think?

    Anybody?? Would I be right in assuming the issue is most likely with the Private proxy provider if Google can trace back to my computer IP and asks me to fill in a captcha when I do a normal search on Google?

    I don't want to mention the providers name in case I am wrong and unjustly do some PR damage so I would like to see what the most likely cause is first and work from there.
     
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  2. nipester

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    You're sharing proxies with other people most likely and they are using their own scrapers on google.
     
  3. tman47

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    They are suppossed to be private (but you never know). But even if others were doing this, when I use Google for simple searching I am not going through any of these proxies - so my concern is how is Google finding out my main IP

    I always use these other proxies for anything BH or gray. Never via my main IP without going through one of these proxies
     
  4. nipester

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    Have you tested their anonymity using charon?
     
  5. tman47

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    Nope..but I going to check this charon thing out - never heard of it..thanks
     
  6. tman47

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    Well I just tested them....

    all 10 are anonymous, country unknown, status good, ping 300 to 400 and a 125 score - not sure how the score is rated, or the ping speed but the everything else seems to check out.
     
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    I'm using private proxies (purchased) and have the same problem... it makes me wonder.
     
  8. tman47

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    What it makes me wonder is how far does Google go and what do we have on our computers after we agree to various terms on say Google gmail, adsense or Adwords (no longer allowed to use that one now ;-(

    Maybe there is some type of trace built in to some kind of google adware/spyware or a derivative form of these.

    If my proxies are working I really have to ask how Google traced back my activity to my IP and then asks me to fill in a captcha.
     
  9. Bytefaker

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    I've noticed the same thing and asked myself why this occures. I think Google sets some cookies or stuff like this and detects it. There can't be any other chance, because my proxies are also really annonymous.

    I think Scrapebox doesn't have it's own browser emulation, it just uses IE in background. I registered this because of some security warnings and crashes.

    Is there any way to prevent this? I think this is really dangerous..
     
  10. tman47

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    Well... right now, when I use SB I turn off Google and AOL from being scraped until I know for sure what is happening - I am even a little leary of using Yahoo. Bing, well no major loss there... at least until Yahoo and Bing join forces in 2011 (on the SEM side of things anyways).
     
  11. Yukinari84

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    I use private proxies and don't have this problem...

    Do any of you having the problem with Google have the Google Toolbar or anything from Google installed like Google Desktop?

    I'm not 100% positive if this is true, but from my own personal testing, you should not have anything from Google like their tool bar etc because it does give them access to your browser and your activity.
     
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    I had the same problem a few days back but I switched over to unr3eals proxies and haven't had a problem since.
     
  13. Bytefaker

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    I double scan the proxies with ProxySwitcher and then with Scrapebox again for annonymity. I've not installed any toolbar of Google or something like this. And tman47 who started this thread is using private proxies too...

    Tought about using a VPN as basic protection and then proxies.. But if Google is able to detect such things then I don't think this helps so much.
     
  14. Yukinari84

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    I can't say whether or not Google is able to detect if you are using Proxies and VPNs, etc 100% since I never had this problem from Scrapebox. I have had Google block a few IPs temporarily, but nothing more.

    Also, there would really be no reason for Google to ban your IPs unless you are giving them a reason like heavy spamming/scraping, but it doesn't sound like you guys are doing anything too bad.

    I would recommend you contact the source of your paid private proxies and inform them of the problem. Maybe they can help.
     
  15. ShareTip

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    Google keeps track of what you search, and do an IP association, imo.
     
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    I think you guys forgot to check "Use Proxy" in ScrapeBox or something? loool anyway, remember this: shared private proxies is not exclusive private proxies
     
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    (Head slap) I never even thought about this. Thanks!
     
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    I haven't had this happen to me since I started using SB but it did happen to me every once in a while when I wasn't using it. I never figured out why but it's really irritating since I wasn't doing anything to cause it.

    I think Google is just fickle like that or the other possibility is that your ISP is sharing IPs with other users. All I know is it's freaking irritating when you're not even doing anything that should cause it and it happens.
     
  19. Yukinari84

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    this is very true.

    the only true private proxies are proxies that only you have access to and no one else.
     
  20. Michaeladams

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    the reason why this is happening is because your program is making requests faster than what a human being is able to do, and so its decting a bot is using it not a humna