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IS google All You need?

Discussion in 'Blogging' started by morework, Nov 17, 2008.

  1. morework

    morework Registered Member

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    i just started a a site with adsense and i am wondering is that all you need to earn good?

    i have heard stories of other thing making your site load slow and not paying i am wondering iss google the only people that pay good and will pay you?:confused:

    any other companies and examples will be good.(something that will work alongside adsense)
     
  2. mattstrike

    mattstrike Regular Member

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    My .02:

    Ad$en$e is a very conservative way to make money, especially on WH sites. It will produce income, but requires quite a bit of traffic to be worthwhile, and, of course, a somewhat well designed site will help.

    Most reputable affiliate networks offer a variety of offers that will pay a lot more, and yes, they do pay out (the reputable ones, for the most part anyway).

    Setting up a site for Ad$en$e is kind of a no brainer. Pick a niche, develop site, populate with articles, build backlinks. As traffic goes up, revenue goes up. Boring, but really easy to understand.

    Affiliate promotion, though, can be a little different. Sure, some of the affiliate networks will provide you with banner ads that can basically take the place of the text ads from G, but you will do better if you go with a different strategy.

    With affiliate networks, you will generally be picking the products that you want to promote, and so it helps to have sites and offers that synchronize well. If you had a forum about bodybuilding, for instance, you would want exercise equipment and supplements as your offers, and they would look like they were sponsoring your site (which in effect, they would be).

    Also, with affiliate networks, there are other kinds of offers, like zip submit and email submit offers. Those will pay out when someone fills in the required information, and a whole topic could be dedicated to that alone.

    The bottom line, however, is that you can do much better than Ad$en$e if you are going to take an active role in designing and promoting your sites. If you want to load sites up with content (outsourced), and don't want to worry about keeping up to date on the best offers, though, then Ad$en$e is a good way to go. I'd suggest trying your hand at both, and seeing how you do, then deciding for yourself which is more your style.
     
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  3. syngenetic

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    Great post mattstrike. I use Adsense as a 2nd way of money. I wouldn't recommend making Adsense your ONLY way of generating cash. And the ads do not slow down your sites at all.

    Another alternative would be Adbrite. It works a different way.
     
  4. paper_chase

    paper_chase Regular Member

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    Adsense is a relatively very slow earner...and it does slow down the loading of the sites....
     
  5. deejne

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    There are many other alternatives to Adsense.
     
  6. paper_chase

    paper_chase Regular Member

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    Not that I am not aware of them....but could you please list just some that are a good alternative to adsense?
     
  7. Sara

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    Just remember "Dont put all your eggs in one basket" I did that once and learnt the hard way... make sure you have multiple streams on income!
     
  8. blackhatttt

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    For now I am using adsense as my secondary sources of income. That is to generate just about money to pay for my hosting and new domain names and maybe a new tools and such.
     
  9. twinkletoes

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    It took me a good year of blogging before I added adsense, and I'm scraping up a couple bucks a month now - lol.

    Multiple streams of income is the way to go. Try a little of everything, and if you find one method making you more than the others, make that your primary and keep the others going on the side.

    Unless you're planning on making 100 blogs, and putting some fresh content on them all on a regular basis and driving traffic to all of them it is really hit or miss as far as making regular money with assense.
     
  10. vinniffa

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    good post mattstrike.

    I'm trying affiliate just now, and I see adsense as my primary. I make some money from adsense, going to make more in the next 6 months.

    But for affiliate marketing I'm having some hard time getting anything. BUT, I'm just learning things about it. Maybe someday I do it.

    One of the things that I don't like with affiliate is that it seems like the very best and almost only (ok, a bit unfair) way to make affilaite money is by teaching others to make affiliate money. It seems a bit pyramid scheme to me.
    I'm the 'guru', now you pay me to learn how to make money. I teach you to make money by teaching somebody else to make money..

    Just a point of view.
     
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  11. mattstrike

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    vinniffa: I hear you about gurus. In general, anyone who is charging money for a "methods only" make money system is ripping people off. There are exceptions, but they are few and far between.

    The thing is, though, when it comes to white hat income and affiliate marketing, there just isn't that much too it:

    • Build a place on the Internet
    • Promote affiliate offers there
    • Drive traffic
    • Analyze and refine

    That's it. There are techniques to be mastered for each of those, but nothing that isn't available, online, in spades.

    One of the things that really stops people from making it is that they are not willing to spend any money to get traffic. I am constantly amazed when I see people spending $100 a month (or more) to learn from this or that guru, but the thought of spending a few hundred dollars on PPC advertising makes them whine and look for less expensive alternatives.

    So there is the other "big secret" of making money online. A person needs to be willing to spend money to make money. If a person really is broke, but is willing to put in seriously hard work, they can generate traffic by hustling, posting links, etc.

    If a person puts their black hat on, there are some real tricks floating around, out there, that can make a person a decent amount of money, but. . .

    Most of them will still require a person do some actual work, and spend some actual money to implement.
     
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  12. vinniffa

    vinniffa Junior Member

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    mattstrike:
    I got your point.
    Next months I'm going to make some tryings with affiliate. My problem is that I'm not accepted in CB (Brazil), then I have to use alternatives.
    Let's see what amazon, CJ and ebay have for me.

    And I'm going to try some CPA as soon as I have a website in english to show the CPA companies.
     
  13. KHMNTCPR8

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    i dont waste my time with adsense. its just not my style. i build quick n dirty sites in spurts and try to send as much traffic as i can while its still got my attention and if it doesnt work i move on.

    hmm perhaps i couuuld use it on a couple sites tho.. for some extra $
     
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  14. mattstrike

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    vinniffa:

    It does suck when the affiliate program you want to earn with does not officially support the country you are in. There are ways around this, but the best way is to use Uptown Bulker's service - he sets people up with their own, legal, anonymous US corporations. You can use that join US affiliate programs, regardless of where you are.

    In the meantime, if you have a site that has a fair amount of traffic, and want to see how well CB would do for you (or any other affiliate program that you can't join yet), head over to the JV section, and I am sure you can find someone that will set you up with links for split of the revenue.
     
  15. blackhatttt

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    OIC so that's how you can get into CB when you are not on the approved countires list.
     
  16. mattstrike

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    That is how you can do it legally, and with no hassle. Plenty of people simply claim to be in an approved country, and find someone to handle the checks for them, but having a company is, IMHO, going to be much better, because you will be less reliant on someone else, and it streamlines everything. Just about every program out there will accept a US corporation just as well as a US individual (some even more so), and if someone ever does decide to follow up, then everything is on the up and up, so there is less chance of having an account frozen for no good reason.

    Of course, it will not offer you protection from accounts being frozen for other reasons, so common sense still needs to be applied in running campaigns, but it levels the playing field in terms of countries and so forth.