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Is EPN DEAD???

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by sujuncai, May 24, 2008.

  1. sujuncai

    sujuncai Newbie

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    Hi, I just want to rant my frustration here regarding EPN. I've created 2 BANS sites which have gathered 600 clicks but made only $0.72 so far! What the hell is going on? Or am I doing something wrong here?

    Is there anyone out here still making good money with EPN? Please share your experience or vent your anger here.
     
  2. battman323

    battman323 Regular Member

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    I haven't seen results with EPN either. I think they've made some NASTY changes to their aff program to screw small-time affiliates. It used to be the easiest money-maker in town but I haven't met anybody praising the new system yet.

    I bet ad-blockers and spyware blockers are somehow preventing a lot of affiliate cookies from getting through too.
     
  3. blanko

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    If you CS you would be praising them :)

    .......until you get caught.
     
  4. tattoo

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    your cookies are being overriden by stuffers like blanko!
     
  5. robb01

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    on whitehat sites I like to bash them too, but in reality I made bank the first month, I was of course CS'ing, but didnt get caught and made out like a bandit. Thing is, I get alot more acrus CS'ing cj's system. I only saw 2-4 acrus w/ epn, yet 20-30 w/ cj in the same time.
     
  6. pussyback

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    epn is alive and I'm make bank
     
  7. sujuncai

    sujuncai Newbie

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    Wow, glad that we have a survivor here, so are you using BANS for your EPN campaigns? And are you making lots with it? How did you succeed, while most of us failed? Thanks for your feedback. We are desperately in need of a knight in shining armor!
     
  8. Diabolik

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    I've definitely noticed a huge drop, but I'm hoping things will right themselves after a first full month when they start paying for the previous month's new member signups. I'm not holding my breath, though. I believe they brought their program in-house so they could rig the system more and not have a 3rd party that they have to pay a cut to looking over their shoulder.
     
  9. engine102

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    I have about 30 or so BANS sites with EPN right now. Some days I have over 600 clicks and end up with ZERO in sales or commissions. Then other days, I might have 100 clicks and end up with $25 or $35 in commissions. I have only had 3 signups so far, so I can't speak for them.

    One question I have, however, is the tracking cookie triggered if they click on an item on my site, or just by them visiting my site?
     
  10. john14809

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    If you are doing it the non cs way, someone has to click an item in order for the tracking cookie to be enabled.
     
  11. engine102

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    That's what I was thinking, thanks john!

    So, what's the best CS method to use to not get caught or banned by EPN?
     
  12. bafaman

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    take things SLOWLY and don't get greedy. this way you will NEVER get caught. this will also prevent them in finding a way to thwart CS and it's abilities if everyone starts gaming their system.
     
  13. engine102

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    I agree, I would take things very slow, what is a good percentage to stuff? 1%? 20%?

    And, what script or method would you use?
     
  14. boomboomer

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    You could start with about 5-10% .. and increase gradually ..
    If you have a lot of traffic on your site, you could even stuff more ..
     
  15. engine102

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    Ok, so I know there are lots of different CS scripts and systems out there.

    What is the best one for BANS/EPN sites? Anyone? I am looking for some experienced advice if someone can help me out...thanks!
     
  16. boomboomer

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    Check my signature ;)
     
  17. tattoo

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  18. razohad

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    i have 2 bans sites
    and 4 phpbay sites

    bans will be my bet choice if you ask me
     
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    I run a whole bunch of BANS sites. Last month was quite good. This month I generate 10 times as many clicks yet earn 10 times less. What a fucking joke! Thousands of daily clicks and not a penny. I might CS the shit out of EPN if white hat earnings don't go up soon.
     
  20. engine102

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    I have about 40 BANS sites so far now. I agree with mightbh that it seems to be very hit or miss with the tracking and reporting. One day I had 599 clicks, but only about $5.00 or so in income. Not quite sure if that is right (me thinks NOT!).

    Another issue I have seen is when the new signups are reported, so far with EPN I am only showing two in two months. With CJ, I had over 6 of them within the same time period.

    I with ya mightbh that a safe and effective CS campaign would probably help, only if those people just visit the site and clickout and are already eBay members.

    Any thoughts on that anyone?