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Is domain age / page age beatable

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by freeufcdotinfo, Nov 19, 2010.

  1. freeufcdotinfo

    freeufcdotinfo Power Member

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    Im trying to rank for a keyword(s) that have little competition, in fact the number 1 has 9 backlinks all no PR.

    I use

    http://www.visible.net/tools/analyzer/index.php

    to compare pages

    My page has around 4.2% keyword density

    the description and the keywords are more relevant than number 1

    I have over 250 backlinks some from high pr pages.

    when I put this through market samurai I notice the only thing is #1's domain is older than my own..


    Any thoughts
     
  2. ipopbb

    ipopbb Power Member

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    Yes. In my own work I only care if the website (not the domain) is at least 10 months old. It is the age of the website that really matters not the creation date of the domain name. I have over 700 domains dating back to the early 90s. Only the ones that had websites in the google index back then have advantage. The old domains that have never been used as websites have no extra value at all... excepting in getting suckers to part with their money, which I don't do. Wayback machine is the best tool to use if you care about website age as a competitive factor. Personally... if your website has been indexed in google for at least 10 months then you should be able to compensate for age with linkbuilding and content tuning in most cases.
     
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  3. dragondani

    dragondani Junior Member

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    The age is not really so difficuly to beat, just make somo relevant content and tons of links wuth the adecuatte anchor text in it.Age give them some advantatge, but not so much that it seems
     
  4. freeufcdotinfo

    freeufcdotinfo Power Member

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    Done all this - every thing point to my page having a better chance at #1, more/better quality links, more relevant interns of keyword(s).

    Only thing I can see is that his domain looks older when viewed via MS.

    The links he has are not related to the domain topic either...
     
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    I'd check the counts on broad keyword matches in the html source. So if the niche is Baking Cookies then count the number of times that keyword variants google puts in bold in the serps appear in the HTML source.

    bake
    baking
    bakes
    cookie
    cookies

    In many cases the winning site simply has several hundred more matches than you.
     
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    freeufcdotinfo Power Member

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    Do you mean his/hers webpage - if so I have the keyword(s) more than him but still less than %5 density.
     
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    It's not just having more... sometimes you need a lot more. Look at a search like games. Those sites often use the keyword variant 500 times or more per page to compensate for other factors they cant compete with.
     
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    It might also be that you are tuning for too much on one page. If your page is half pepperoni and half pineapple then it may not be as relevant to someone looking for a pepperoni pizza.
     
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    freeufcdotinfo Power Member

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    I always thought if I have a keyword(s) too many times on the page, it would get a slap off google and be flagged as spam or something...

    There must be something my competitor is doing that I cant see - his site does not seem to be optimized for that keyword yet he still at the top.