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Is Craigslist CPA marketing blackhat??

Discussion in 'CPA' started by Popmania, Jan 21, 2010.

  1. Popmania

    Popmania Registered Member

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    I was wondering if this was the case. I'm thinking of promoting the biz-opp offer from profitROI on CL(they allow that). I'm also a member on Adscend media which has some decent credit report offers.

    So I was thinking of combining both offers for more money. Adscendmedias doesn't mention anything about CL, but I still want to make sure.

    I think CL should be fine because at least the people are real. Still, I wanna hear your thoughts guys.
     
  2. BigHustlah

    BigHustlah Power Member

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    Most networks don't really like CL traffic, however, traffic that backs out for the advertiser is generally liked at any network. So the simple fact that you have used CL as a medium to drive your traffic shouldn't be the question you are worried about.

    You should ask yourself "Is the method in which I'm promoting the offer deceptive, and if the advertiser finds out, will they be upset and not pay me?"
     
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  3. Popmania

    Popmania Registered Member

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    So if I'm not deceiving the leads, CL traffic should be fine.

    As far as I know, I don't think I'm going to be using deceiving ads to get people to get their credit report done. So I should be fine.

    Thanks!
     
  4. Dangazzm

    Dangazzm Regular Member

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    Lots of networks and publishers will ban you the minute they find out about it, that is MOST but if you cover your track well enough theres no harm to the publisher (fake leads ETC) then you should be good.
     
  5. gbmack

    gbmack Power Member

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    Good luck making money on CL if you're not deceiving your leads. Pretty much all blackhat CL marketing requires an incentive. If you offer an incentive that doesn't exist or they never get it (aka job, girl/sex, etc) , then you're deceiving them.

    Your conversions will be horrible if you don't use "deceiving" ads. I recommend using a deceiving campaign which involves a job that doesn't exist, and you'll be making the money.



    Many of my successful campaigns were simply successful due to the use of a non-existent incentive. Call it deception, but if you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

    Don't be discouraged though, it's not nearly as bad as CC fraud and ID theft.
     
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    juice Regular Member

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    CL is a great place to get real leads. However, most companies don't allow CL traffic, so make sure you cover your tracks by using various methods such as hiding the referrer, etc.

    If they accept CL traffic, then obviously you have nothing to worry about. :D
     
  7. Popmania

    Popmania Registered Member

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    Whoa! That's changed my outlook a lot! But with that kind of traffic wouldn't most of your leads stop midway between the offer completion process(not all people are dumb, right..).

    So you're saying that I should make ads for stuff that don't exist and in the process get myself more leads. OK, but what if I don't have any other traffic source to cloak this source of 'leads', won't the affiliate company just boot me out of the network? (my polite way of asking: Weren't you ever kicked out of a network??:D)

    If you're telling me that you've stayed on networks with only semi-fraudulent leads.......then I'm game for some black-hat CL marketing!!
     
  8. BigHustlah

    BigHustlah Power Member

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    Just be really, really, really careful. Either cover your ass 1000000%, or be transparent with your AM. I have had some pretty candid talks with AM's, and even some owners of very large networks. It's OK to discuss methods, and whether they will be allowed or not.

    Be realistic, don't come out and say "I'm gonna post fake job ads and then make them sign up for XYZ offer" because 99.999% of the time you will get laughed at / banned on sight. But if you have another way of driving the traffic, that might be clever, but not straight up deceitful, it's worth bringing up.

    Better to ask, and get confirmation yes/no (or better, HOW) than just run the traffic blindly and risk getting your account terminated.

    Just my .02
     
  9. MikeHustle

    MikeHustle Power Member

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    Here's a question?:

    How do networks find out if an affiliate is using CL?

    I'm only using offers that allow traffic from email.... What are the warning signs that my leads came from CL?
     
  10. MoneyMakerMatt

    MoneyMakerMatt Junior Member

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    Heres what I don't get, if you are advertising on CL then you are responding via e-mail, so technically isn't it considered e-mail marketing then? Who cares where the e-mail exchange started.
     
  11. bmac

    bmac BANNED BANNED Premium Member

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    So if I am posting cl ads and just using it to drive traffic to a site hoping for ad*ense clicks is that considered fraudulent or deceptive. Like if I post a job ad and every person that responds I send an email to them saying go to this site to view the job details. Is that something the big G is going to get pissed about.
     
  12. tajinder

    tajinder Newbie

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    sorry i am kinda new to cpa.i had few cpa accounts but haven't really start yet.i wonder how ppl make money with cpa using craig's list??
     
  13. Bel fiore

    Bel fiore Newbie

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    They can tell it's from CL. The best way is to use the CPA redirect and create a blog that hosts that particular offer.
     
  14. moneymaker0513

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    I also would like to know this one.
     
  15. p2y

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    Think about it,one of your leads called the acai berry site about the job offered and requested the further details :)
     
  16. TheGoat

    TheGoat Registered Member

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    Well they could just ask one of your leads how they heard about their offer... Using a DMR or redirect won't mean squat then.

    lol and don't fool yourselves into thinking that email marketing means posting ads on CL and sending the replies to CPA offers. When it comes down to it, CL is still the medium and the "oh I thought it was ok 'cause my affiliate link was in an email message" excuse isn't gonna fly with your AM when the proverbial poop hits the fan..

    I know everyone keeps saying that hardly any networks allow CL traffic, but that simply isn't true. Here's a thought, before you go ahead and start posting, ask your AM if they have any offers that you can send CL traffic to. It'll make you look trustworthy in their eyes since you took the initiative to ask before you acted, and they might just say "yes, we do!" They will likely want to see your copy and know about your method, but you would be surprised on what they will let you get away with if you can show you're not defrauding people. There are plenty of good methods that you can use to promote CPA offers on CL that don't involve ripping people off in the jobs, rental and personals sections.
     
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  17. moneymaker0513

    moneymaker0513 Junior Member

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    Thanks for the info. Can you give me one method that I can use to promote my credit card campaign?:) I really want to earn money the WH way. Please do pm me if you have one.
     
  18. dukeofism

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    Criagslist is definitely now blackhat, however most big CPA networks do not like craigslist traffic at all.