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Is college education important?

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  1. scriptaty

    scriptaty Regular Member Premium Member

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    How important do you think the college education is?

    Is it so important that, guys like me who hate college education can't get in any field?

    I would love to hear some logical reasons for this debate.
     
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    It IS important if you want to work 9to5!
     
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  3. tony-raymondo

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    if you know php, lamp, wordpress, photoshop, dreamweaver, and mysql, or if you're willing to learn, college is a waste of time.

    90% of the kids in university shouldnt be there.

    i got my degree, but if i had to do it again, i wouldnt have gone.
     
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    phhew i just droped out of college to be a full time IM'er every single one of my family members are telling me it was a mistake.
    i personally believe getting a 1 on 1 tutoring is much better than school... but it probably depends on your learning style to
     
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  5. scriptaty

    scriptaty Regular Member Premium Member

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    Two reviews so far.

    You guys really got me up. I was near to regret for my decision forever.

    From my childhood, I always hated education. This didn't mean that I never wanted to learn. I was so eager to learn new things. And I was also a talented student of the class but I always hated my school and college.

    And the most important thing that hit my head was that, I never wanted work under any government or private officers. My aim from the childhood was to work freely. And I think I got my target catching up this field and next aim is to be milestone of this field.
     
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    A degree is a good "insurance plan" if all else fails. Earn one. While IM'ing.

    Sorry if society doesn't regard blackhatting to the highest of standards, but it's the way it is.
     
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    Firms will replace you once you make 3x's a new hires wage.

    They will then use more experienced employees to train them.

    Then in a few years they remove those that trained the new hires.

    9-5 no longer is a stable long term option for people.

    If you elect to pursue the 9-5 lifestyle, be sure to work on other sources of income in your spare time.
     
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  8. scriptaty

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    Yes, you are right. But there is nothing I will be doing even I earn one. I will always attach with IM'ing and I am never going to leave this even I fail thousands of time.

    Even if I fail and leave this field then will I be able to work with those degrees? coz everything will be washed up by the time. And working with such brain in some company won't be blackhat but a cheating, isn't it?

    So, IMO, certificate will be helpful when someone asks you about your education only. And nothing else.
     
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    If you dont enjoy anything at University, don't go. I for one love studying a business degree because psychological stuff i learn, and the networking I get to do with intelligent people. Defo wont waste my time with a masters or phd though... screw that, lifes too short.
     
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  10. scriptaty

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    The most biggest problem I see while doing this job is that, nobody understands you. Even my family don't know what I am doing. Let alone others. And this has been already discussed in this forum too. Don't you feel this?

    But I am happy with this coz I can make my own brother to fill up a CPA form because of his unknowness. hahahahahaha
     
  11. tony-raymondo

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    If you like computers, and you are good at it, I would say learn as much about computers as you possibly can.

    programming, mmo, blackhat, seo, ppc, IT, networking, hardware, software, whatever.

    learn it all as you go.

    In college you learn a lot of math and how to kill rats and how to read french poetry and how to sit in a box and study things you're not really interested in.

    And with those skills, you can work at McDonalds.

    I only wish i was 18 again.

    I wouldnt have gone to college.

    However, for people who are not good with computers, then yes, I suggest they go to college.
     
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    Yup same thing here !
     
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    Btw you DON'T have to go to college to learn only craps like php/codding and stuff like that! For that there are cheap Indians for $200/month who will do that for you- but the real thing you want to learn something in is Business itself!
     
  14. tony-raymondo

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    its a good point

    its very hard to get some one to THINK like a business man, instead of an engineer.

    The best cure i'ves seen for this, is to work for a good mentor with business sense when you are young.
     
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    But learning business is not from college. Learning business in college means to hold business for someone else. The owner will be always mastermind to make their degree holder managers dance in front of them as they say :).
     
  16. seomedia

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    I'm glad I went to University, however, I believe if I'd have hammered the web marketing I'd have made a fortune at an early age, I self taught HTML at 15 and made my 1st $1000 online back then over dial up.... that said I went to university on a sports scholarship and got to travel all over the world though that.

    What I'd say to anyone considering it, going or not is simple... follow your goals, your dreams and ambitions. It's important to roughly have a plan, even if this may all change, but as you'll find the most unexpected things pop up in life and you end up doing things you'd not have imagined doing life has a wonderful way of doing this to you...

    I now do work online, in a very good job and am looking to freelance and go full circle to become an online freelancer and earn money full time over my websites. I never became a professional athlete, however I had a brilliant time that money just could never buy! I'd not replace that for anything!

    Another VERY important tip about college and university is the social experience, I've met total social retards that just don't really seem to be fun, or cool people to hang around with. Ok this isn't everything - to be the life of the party or whatever - but I'd say living away from home and learning to "fend for yourself in the real world" is just as important as you're degree or qualification. So I'd recommend travelling away from home if you are going to do a degree or college course.
     
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    I never went to school when I was supposed to. I took all my examinations
    while I was in jail. Not because I needed them but because I wanted them.
    I made money off-line before I came on-line. My daughter is at university
    studying drama but I have instilled the discipline in her of business, she knows
    how to handle her finances and she knows how to create a business in seconds
    that will earn her an income. Notice I said earn, nothing comes free, Think, would
    your business still be viable if your internet got cut off? If I had my time again I
    would definitely go to university and get my credentials. Bullshit will only get you
    so far but action will get you a lot further.
     
  18. wowhaxor

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    I'm a high school drop out. I went back to the university years later for almost 2 years but never got a degree.

    I do just fine for myself and find myself to not only be more intelligent but also to have far less narrow views of things than people who did 4 years of college (school is straight up brain washing the masses).
     
  19. asilent

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    I was finished my university but that was really hard to do. I knew that all I have to do in the university is just to receive the degree. I thought it will not give me anything new to me in my field (computers) and I had thoughts like you have during almoust all the education time.

    But it was finished and that is hard to say that it was the waste of time. Yes, may be there were lost some potential money, but it gave me the experience and gave me the knowledge of what should I do in different situations not related to education. That gave to me the part of life lessons.

    Try to think from this point of view when making your decision.
     
  20. yamahafzr

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    i think the issue in today's society is that the following is drilled into our minds the day we are born "COLLEGE COLLEGE COLLEGE.... YOUR LIFE WILL SUCK UNLESS YOU GO TO COLLEGE" when really college should not be necessary. it should be based on your skills, not who you threw money at