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Is cloaking necessary?

Discussion in 'Cloaking and Content Generators' started by aladin, Sep 18, 2008.

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  1. aladin

    aladin Junior Member

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    hello, everybody.

    I have built a site affiliated to Amazon. I have promoted it intensively on blogs, by the means of links towards it (with key words).
    Is it necessary for me to use the cloaking to redirect the links towards my site or I can continue using its real address in links on blogs?
    After submitting, it appeared on the 5th page in google, but, after the intensive promoting actions (posting and pinging) it dissapeared. It still exsists in the google database and it has not been banned.
    Any suggestions?
     
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    please, an advice for me. Or give me some links to read about this.
     
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    cloaking not only protects your affiliate links from being hijacked, but it also makes your URLs look more friendly to the eye and thus improving your conversion rates. just check out the "cloaking" section in the forum for more info on how to cloak. but just make sure that your affiliate program allows cloaking cuz some won't.

    as far as your site dissappearing from Google, how much did you ping and bookmark etc? if you just go out and do this all at once, Google will most likely see your site as spam since you are getting all these links to your site all at once.
     
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    bruce6667 Junior Member Premium Member

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    hell no you shouldn't cloak the links from your splogs to your site.
    maybe cloak your affiliate links.
    arrgh since when does redirecting a link count as cloaking.
     
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    ( scuse for my poor english)
    i have made 10 blogs/subblogs (on 3 domains ( wordpress blogger) and i made the following for 5 days:

    3-4 posts/day on every blog
    4-10 links/ post to my store ( my store is a page with minimal content and Amazon affiliate links - IFRAME)
    one ping at 100-200 minutes directed toward the blogs( from a list with 15 links)

    it is too much? or not? I was wrong? my store site still exist on google but it dropped form 5th page on google .....to nowere.
    The various articles I posted on that blogs has nothing to do with the subject of my site. I have a store wich sells medical books but i posted article about electronical products. And at the end of every article I posted some links to my store ( within the same keywords)
    What do I do wrong.?
     
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    What is the purpose of cloaking affil links? Couldn't someone manually visit your site and figure out what they are? Or are you preventing bots from searching the web for affil links?

    And say I do have your affiliate link, who cares? What could you even do with that?
     
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    There are some affiliate hijackers out there that steal your leads if you don't cloak your links.
     
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    How can they steal your leads?
     
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    You definitely want to cloak your affialite links, if for no other reason than to keep people from by-passing them. If you have a link like this:
    hxxp://www.ebookproduct.com/buynow/?aff=youraffiliatename or any variation of that theme, anyone who hovers their mouse over the link can see the affiliate id name, chop it off and get the product and you get no commission. Happens all the time.

    As to how they steal it....

    Well, that would be telling and I don't think that's an appropriate discussion for here. Just know that there are techniques to do so, so cloaking your link is the safest bet.

    There are many ways of cloaking it, from using redirects, to using on-line cloakers like Juggernaut (check my sig, it's free) and ViralURL (also free) to desktop versions like Cloaker Buzz. If you have any affiliate links, or links you'd rather not have anyone muck with OR identify for any reason, cloak 'em. ;)



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    okay im confused...

    am i right to assume that redirects are generally mixed up with the word cloak, and cloak is actually something else?

    whats the best tool for redirect and tracking aff links then?

    is there one that does it all?
     
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    You are correct that redirect is different than cloaking. Cloaking completely hides the link in question. Using tinyURL for example is cloaking the link. You cannot tell where it will lead or what, if any, affiliate id there is.

    Redirects, while they can also cloak the link, usually are used strictly to have one link go somewhere else other than what it looks like it may go to. mysite.com ends up going to myaffiliatesite.com instead.

    For tracking links, if you want to just track the hits, then Web Traffic Juggernaut works great. (Check my sig) If you also want to track where those hits are coming from, then ViralURL does that. Both are free. You can also use a desktop app such as Cloaker Buzz (it's around here somewhere) to set up a cloaked link and or a redirect. It, however, does not track anything.