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Is buyng soundcloud plays worth it to spread your music?

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  1. mummy21

    mummy21 Registered Member

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    For someone who'd like to share his music online and maybe get it heard and spread it for real, is it really worth it to buy soundcloud plays and so on? is it a lost cause? I remember that for youtube this is a good way to get your videos ranked etc.
    but how does it work for soundcloud? would it just be a stupid boost but no actual effect in spreading the music?
    off course all of the above assuming the music content is 'special'.

    which services are best for marketing your content on soundcloud and actually getting good results?
     
  2. Y M C M B

    Y M C M B Power Member

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    It'll help you rank your music, but try not to rely too heavily on it.:)
     
  3. mummy21

    mummy21 Registered Member

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    what do you mean? Would you please elaborate a bit further on how this works?
    thanks for your response.
     
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    It means that you will get the plays visually, but you will not get actual plays by real people. Your song CAN get ranked better and make a visual effect on a person who is about to click the Play button, but nothing else.
     
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    It is good to help supplement this. But like stated above you can not rely on it all the way.
     
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  6. mummy21

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    thanks a lot for the responses...so is it like youtube where you NEED views to get more exposure in your niche or it's a whole different game? what approaches/services would you guys use? do geo-targeting, drip feed etc. matter?

    I was thinking to start with some slow plays maybe geo targeted about 1k or 1.5k for first uploads and take it from there slowly...

    what would you guys do?
     
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    There is a lot more to soundcloud promotion than plays. Anyone who tells you otherwise is trying to sell you plays ;-)


    plays / likes / comments / reposts / following / playlists etc etc
     
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  8. mummy21

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    thanks a lot for your response!!! would you mind sharing what services and strategies you you'd go for to promote on soundcloud? I'm very new to and any info that I could study would be highly appreciated!!!
     
  9. lajcik

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    The best thing that you could do at the very beginning would be interacting even manually with other users. They will start mentioning you and so on, that will generate your first traffic. ;)
     
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  10. NotAllenTuring

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    My two cents a few days later;

    Also keep in mind that a lot of the SoundCloud "service providers" have accounts that have no outgoing links to other social networks i.e. Twitter or Facebook.

    Most of these accounts could also have a lot of incest followers, meaning the "service provider(s)" have their accounts follow each other.

    An other thing to think about is when you have several tracks on SC, let's say >10, and those where uploaded by you over a certain period of time, let's say 3 years, the "service provider" should take care of "balancing" the plays on the earlier tracks. It's just wierd to have 8 tracks with around 300 play's and your last track having 2340 plays. Nevermind the non comments, reposts and likes on those other tracks (meaning non existent).

    It is also my opinion that the "service provider" you select should take the initiative in balancing the other tracks. It shouldn't be you that asks for that. The fact that the service provider thinks about this before you do says something about their commitment and skill set. It is also my opinion that track balancing should be done free of charge, because it's part of the marketing plan.

    Yet an other thing; What is the Geo location of the profiles. If you are a local DJ or producer that isn't very well know yet (at this moment, your working on getting there...) it doesn't make sense to have 1500 followers from an other part of the world. This is slightly less important if your a producer, but still something to think about.

    I will continue; does the service provider of your choice have a few profiles that "engage" with others? i.e. create playlists, owns a channel and so on? Do these profiles Tweet or post to FB? Are they going to tweet and post your tracks?

    Having a few hundred followers, likes and plays on SC, that in turn don't have a social network outside of SC is worthless. Think of them as the backlinks in the musical SEO Game. The A&R's, recordlabels or venue owners will notice this and will not contact you, unless they see and hear some real talent.

    To make a long story not even longer. First of all it is about the quality of your product. Buying likes, plays and reposts is easy. But also think and look at the social signal outside of SC that the profiles will bring you. For this you need a good "service provider."

    I know that a few here will now scramble to get their act together.. ;-)

    Anyways... What do you want? Just some plays, likes and repost without any added value or have a long term relationship with someone that has an idea and clue about this stuff?

    Those where my 2 cents...

    Best of luck!
     
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  11. mummy21

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    This actually makes sense. Thanks!
    would you be able to pm me any good services that you know of? Because these days finding strong service providers would be real hard!!
     
  12. gh0st_0

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    Here is something that ill suggest. Post your tracks into groups on a certain time of the day. Trust me this is the best way to get your music out there, don't spend your money on fake plays in my opinion its better to spend them on fake follows than plays, but as some say above don't go heavy!
     
  13. NotAllenTuring

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    Hi mummy21,

    TL;DR: To what amount are you driven in wanting to persue a career in the music industry? Is this really your dream and are you willing to work hard?

    If not, then just buy some likes and plays form someone here on BHW or load up the big G in your browser and query it.

    When you really do want this and you are talented enough and poses enough personal insight about your own "marketing potential", you can read the long version of my answer below.

    At this moment i can't really think of some reliable SC providers that have this kind of setup in their system.

    I do however know that 97% of the SC providers that you can find online only offer reposts, plays, likes and so on with simple and minimal profile metadata. And there are a lot of them. The hardest part is to find the 2% that are left over in the equation that do have decent profiles and do offer a decent service. The remaining 1% works under the radar and have clients that have several artist and or producers under their wings and are not really that interested in an order from an individual.

    What i would suggest is to find a few on BHW or the big G and e-mail them to ask what type of service they provide. Like i typed in my previous reaction; challenge them, but do not give out any suggestions about what you are looking for, have them come up with a plan and have them show you a few samples of their best profiles. That way you can see what you're dealing with. This will weed out the a**holes that might f**k up big time.

    Any SC provider worth their salt and your money will show you their best profiles, because both parties involved are at risk. They are in breach of the SC terms and conditions clause and on the other hand they have the power to expose you as being a "faker" when you f**k them over in any way or form. Like any "normal" type of business it is all about trust. And trust has to go both ways...

    If an SC provider you have contacted is not willing to do this, drop them like a hot potato. A good SC provider doesn't work with artists that just set up their profile on SC and only have one or two tracks uploaded. A good SC provider does his due dilligence, because competiton is fierce and profiles do disappear from time to time. Whether this is because of the SC algorithm or because SC is "helped" by some one is hard to say. Let's keep it at "sh*t happens".

    What you absolutely don't want is to end up with low quality likes and comments. Like i typed before, the A&R's know this game and can see fake comments from a mile away.

    This is not really the answer you are looking for, i know. I just want you to think about this really hard.

    If you have the talent and the willingness to work hard you can figure this out. Sometimes you have to meet the right people that will help you out. Just remember that there are a lot of snakes in the grass when you are moving within the field of the music industry.

    This last remark also applies to some of the SC providers. They just want to get paid and sadly, just like in the real world, a lot of them don't mind to bend you over if you don't watch out.

    Let me ask you something. What is it that you do? Are you a producer, singer/songwriter? And what genre do you work in?

    Best of luck.
     
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  14. mummy21

    mummy21 Registered Member

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    Thanks a lot actually that's the answer I was looking for...because doing music...if you want to promote yourself on that level you need serious cash and of course quality providers...youtube game is too complex so I wanted to try out soundcloud.

    Me? well I've been rapping for about 9 years or so now. Have been a producer for about 3 years or so and I had brief career in the underground for bangladesh. By brief I mean I produced a few albums worked with some of the big artists in that niche and scene and we did the first phone o live rap tv show in bangladesh history.

    Then two years back I left. The game since then changed A LOT. But one thing that is the same is the fact that everything for them revolves around facebook. Other than that now they have all juiced youtube videos to impress their fans of fb...but that's another story and another market.

    now I'm living in another country.

    and I wanted to explore more on the promotion side, specially through internet and so on. because I'm mostly used to word of mouth and spreading your music the "analogue way" for which I don't have much time anymore.

    Point is now I left and I decided to study engineering so I'm busy doing that, but I did want to keep in touch and maybe spread my music by very little. I don't aim to get a living out of it at the moment because it'd take too much time and effort. But it'd be nice to make some music on the side and just let some folks hear and spread it...So not so much as 50000 plays but like 4,000 plays would be very nice. even 2,000 but I want them good quality...something I could do on the side and something out of pure love and passion that's all.
     
  15. NotAllenTuring

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    Hi mummy21,

    I had a few busy days and wasn't able to answer to your answer a bit sooner.

    Serious cash and service providers is not really necessary. It is not only a matter of having a big budget. First of all it is about finding out where your audience is and connect with them there. You say they are on FB, join FB...

    Just contact your old collaborators and let them know you're busy. And again, if they are on FB, join FB

    Engineering. A great choice. The world needs more engineers, physicists and philosophers.

    In this case I wouldn't dosh out some serious cash on SC likes, reposts and so on. Just get a couple of these for your tracks and leave it at that. No need to go Chuck Norris in this department.

    Again, best of luck.
     
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  16. MartysW0RLD

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    Do a fiverr test or two and see if boosting on soundcloud gives you the results you like, 5$ isn't gonna hurt you.
    Soundcloud is one of those online communities you need to use for a while to understand. There's partnerships built, collabs, and repost for repost guys, etc that figure out ways to build followers. Others just boost stats like craaazy I've seen millions of plays on nobodies just to try to get them relevant.
     
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    Your music matters most. If your music is average and boring even good marketing won't save you. Im going to tell you nobody is going to market your soundcloud for just 100 dollars which means real views and real followers etc. Best soundcloud promoters work with artists/labels who also have real followers and listeners they just try to grow it even more. But first, listen to your music and be critical.
     
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    in my opinion, promoting an unsigned band is really REALLY hard.
    Monetizing contents and having sales is difficult because of the high competition, even if the band is quite good.
    I am into IM since 2010 and i experimented many methods in many niches, all i can say that i promoted lots of products in my life and had sales, but I am not able to promote my band in order to earn a living from my art.
    This is quite frustrating but this is real.

    Doing some quick math you should do this every month to earn a decent living:

    sell 1000 songs a month on itunes ($0,99 each)
    Make at least 3/400$ from your views on youtube.
    then you would make some money playing gigs but that is offline mktg

    This is quite impossible for an unsigned band without a huge follow along.

    If there is someone that can help me doing this I would be glad to share 50% of my earnings.
    I am waiting for my inbox to be flooded with messages:)
     
  19. mummy21

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    thanks a lot for all of the reply and so sorry for the late reply. I got really caught up with my studies and what not I was barely at home.

    I know this is an old thread but I wanted to thank all of you for the insights and what not. I am not planning on making music my first source of income it's just a hobby...and I'd like to get my music somewhat noticed and what not...that's all!
     
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    Mate, don't buy followers or plays. Make good music and work on your production skills and get your songs featured on big music sharing youtube channels like suicidesheep for example. I produce music as a hobby and my songs have been used in thousands of videos. The biggest promo I got was when this league of legends team called fnatic used my songs. Honestly in my opinion though if you're making music for money you wont go far. Good luck!